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re: There is a wide gap in the SEC QBs
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:05 am to FranMully
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:05 am to FranMully
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Uhhhhh why did you exclude 2013 Mettenberger who was 5th in total QBR. Fraud.
Because we were talking about best RETURNING starting QB.
Mettenberger was 76th in his first year as a starter.
Sure, Mettenberger had an outstanding 2013 year, but can we wait to compare overall stats (and 2nd year) until Burrow actually plays his?
Is that too hard for you idiots to understand?
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:05 am
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:05 am to FranMully
He tried to use wordplay to eliminate certain QBs better seasons, like saying “returning starting QB.” Aside from that not being a disqualifier he also referred to Jamarcus Russell’s final year as a standard while claiming Etling and Mettenbergers could not be used. He also ignored Etlings more efficient junior season completely. This is what happens when you’re dealing with someone who wants to spin facts, you get caught up in language and then grading debates while the actual data is disregarded.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:06 am to LSUAlum2001
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but can we wait to compare overall stats (and 2nd year) until Burrow actually plays his?
Is that too hard for you idiots to understand?
Comparing a career or veteran season to a first season is idiotic, yet that's what the rantards like to do.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:07 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:07 am to Madking
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He tried to use wordplay to eliminate certain QBs better seasons
Best returning starting QB isn’t wordplay, but continue to ignore the original premise, it’ll show more of your idiocy today.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:07 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:09 am to LSUAlum2001
Lol using that stupid qualifier doesn’t eliminate those two players final seasons. We know exactly what they were in their “Returning” season. Now if you’d have said “which QB had the best first year as a starter” then you’d have a case against Mett. But in this scenario your little trick doesn’t work because that’s not what was said or what was being discussed.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:12 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:14 am to LSUAlum2001
“it’ll show more of your idiocy today.”
Lol boy the irony is palpable. For someone so pompous and arrogant you aren’t too sharp, but then again you’d be surprised how often that turns out to be the case with guys like you.
Lol boy the irony is palpable. For someone so pompous and arrogant you aren’t too sharp, but then again you’d be surprised how often that turns out to be the case with guys like you.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:16 am to LSUAlum2001
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Because we were talking about best RETURNING starting QB.
My bad, was skimming over with coffee at work and missed "returning"... I stand corrected
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:18 am to LSUAlum2001
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Best returning starting QB isn’t wordplay
Correct. It is exactly what it is.
We're in a great position with Burrow. I expect him to blow Metts stats away.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:19 am to FranMully
You’re still not wrong. In their “returning” seasons we know that Mettenberger was alltime great at LSU and Etling has one of the most efficient years in school history. So in their returning roles they were both outstanding as you said. What we don’t know is what Burrow will be so all we can say is he had a comparable and in some ways a better “first” season as a starter. But in no way is he a better returning player as it stands right now.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:23 am to Madking
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But in no way is he a better returning player as it stands right now.
If you base it on first year stats, absolutely. Going into the season, Burrow is definitely a head above where the other two were.
There's nothing else to objectively or factually base it on.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
It’s wordplay when you only use that standard to help one side of the argument. You can’t use Jamarcus Russell’s final season and Matt Flynn’s final season then say Mettenbergers and Etlings can’t be used. That’s the definition of a double standard.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:26 am to dallastiger55
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You have 3 first rounders
You want to bet?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:27 am to Madking
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cherry pick
I know. Frustrating when others do it too.Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:30 am to Madking
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It’s wordplay when you only use that standard to help one side of the argument.
Compare careers after year two. But yes, Burrow is the best returning QB we have had in a long time. I don't see how that's controversial.
Zach had the better career, Burrow had the better first season. It can all be reevaluated at seasons end.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
,” Burrow is definitely a head above where the other two were”
How so? Etling had better numbers and Mett was far more talented and showed that talent in the second half of the season. You also can’t forget that in Metts first season he played for the worst OC in program history. An OC who fielded the worst offense in the last 20 years with arguably the best roster over that span. There are much more questions about Burrow right now than there ever were about Mett.
How so? Etling had better numbers and Mett was far more talented and showed that talent in the second half of the season. You also can’t forget that in Metts first season he played for the worst OC in program history. An OC who fielded the worst offense in the last 20 years with arguably the best roster over that span. There are much more questions about Burrow right now than there ever were about Mett.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:33 am to Madking
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You can’t use Jamarcus Russell’s final season and Matt Flynn’s final season
Jamarcus Russell’s final season was 2006.
He started all season in 2005 and returned for his final year as a Junior in 2006.
I never used Flynn because he was a Senior in 2007 when he finally became the full time starter.
Reading is hard for you, isn’t it?
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:34 am to Madking
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Etling had better numbers
When? His first year numbers are decent, but not statistically promising. He was better than the two before him though.
People were still bitching about him being the starting QB prior to 2017.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:35 am to Madking
quote:The irony.
For someone so pompous and arrogant you aren’t too sharp
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
We’re all Burrow fans, to me he’s the best QB, between the ears, we’ve had since Tommy Hodson. And I believe that’s the most important area for a QB so I’m all in on him. At the same time we can’t just ignore the truth or get caught up in recency bias, which runs rampant on n the Rant. These same arguments were being had over Fournette and Guice so I’ve seen this before.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:37 am to memphis tiger
Who the frick cares what round he goes In
Just ball out this coming season
Just ball out this coming season
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