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re: The worst part of the O hire...LA recruiting
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:30 pm to madddoggydawg
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:30 pm to madddoggydawg
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Wait tRant told me that was O's class. He is responsible for it. Except for in this thread I guess.
O gets the benefit of the doubt for the 2017 class. Recruiting starts multiple years before the actual signing day which is solidly in Miles’ responsibility. With all the turmoil of the mid season coaching change, he did fine to keep it together as well as he did. He also addressed our needs at LB.
Now 2018 is a different. This one is completely on Orgeron. We know he’s not actually doing anything on offense or defense in terms of coaching. Recruiting is for all practical purposes his only responsibility. He was sold to us as an elite recruiter who could build walls around LA. At least a couple of his staff were brought on purely for recruiting. Anything less than a top ten class and its just more proof that this experiment is failing...and right now it doesn’t look good.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:43 pm to SportTiger1
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But hey, stay miserable.
will do
And hey you're good at it as well!
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:50 pm to SportTiger1
2017 was turmoil so you can't make a distinction on that.
He lost out on some good prospects but overall it was a pretty good year for a team changing head coaches.. Second highest in the SEC, ever, I think?
2018 is down for Louisiana. But we should close with Marshall (who is by far the most important), Joseph and Keys.
Maybe Rogers which would be a great pull.
2019 is the year that we should judge O on.
It will most likely be the best class Louisiana has ever produced. If he fails then we're in serious trouble.
That's not to say I think O is the answer.
Actually.. I think we'd be better off if we fired him at the end of this year and hired someone with some momentum going into 2019.
He just happened to position himself in a great spot to screw over LSU for a long time.
He lost out on some good prospects but overall it was a pretty good year for a team changing head coaches.. Second highest in the SEC, ever, I think?
2018 is down for Louisiana. But we should close with Marshall (who is by far the most important), Joseph and Keys.
Maybe Rogers which would be a great pull.
2019 is the year that we should judge O on.
It will most likely be the best class Louisiana has ever produced. If he fails then we're in serious trouble.
That's not to say I think O is the answer.
Actually.. I think we'd be better off if we fired him at the end of this year and hired someone with some momentum going into 2019.
He just happened to position himself in a great spot to screw over LSU for a long time.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:56 pm to tgerb8
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2017 was turmoil so you can't make a distinction on that.
He lost out on some good prospects but overall it was a pretty good year for a team changing head coaches.. Second highest in the SEC, ever, I think?
2018 is down for Louisiana. But we should close with Marshall (who is by far the most important), Joseph and Keys.
Maybe Rogers which would be a great pull.
2019 is the year that we should judge O on.
It will most likely be the best class Louisiana has ever produced. If he fails then we're in serious trouble.
That's not to say I think O is the answer.
Actually.. I think we'd be better off if we fired him at the end of this year and hired someone with some momentum going into 2019.
He just happened to position himself in a great spot to screw over LSU for a long time.
This. 100%
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:08 pm to AlxTgr
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Ah, you don't follow recruiting. Never mind.
yes i do. you clearly dont understand that this program is built on La talent with a sprinkle of oos kids. but hey stay ignorant.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:13 pm to whitefoot
Trust me, I understand there are intricacies to filling out a class. I don't expect lsu to sign the top 10 LA guys just because they are here...but to lose 7 out of 10?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:19 pm to SportTiger1
Go frick Yourself Jerk-Off!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!!
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:20 pm to SportTiger1
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but to lose 7 out of 10
There were legit reasons for almost all of them. If you care enough, I'll list them, but tgerb8 did a good job of providing the general overview.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:24 pm to whitefoot
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There were legit reasons for almost all of them
Fair enough. I don't follow recruiting like I used to, so I'll trust you on the '17 class.
What's up with the '18 class?
Eta- I'm not digging the buses of waiting until the 19 class before judging O...that's retarded....while we're losing to subpar teams.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:25 pm to Tiger Abe
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Go frick Yourself Jerk-Off!
Nice!
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GEAUX TIGERS!!!!
Agreed
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:25 pm to whitefoot
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There were legit reasons for almost all of them. If you care enough, I'll list them, but tgerb8 did a good job of providing the general overview.
sugar coat it all you want. losing 7 of 10 out of La is not a good thing. this wasnt your average coaching change where a brand new coach had to come in and create a relationship with these recruits.
3 of our top 5 recruits going directly to a rival isnt good
and im not directly blaming O.
im talking about lsu's program im general.
i give credit to O for finishing string last year. just really think we could've used #4 and #5.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:27 pm to memphis tiger
Their running backs coach Tony Hull is straight from being the head coach at a talent factory in Warren Easton in New Orleans. His connections run very very deep and he can promise immediate playing time because they are so bad.
When I mean connections it does not matter which public program in New Orleans he is basically family the minute he walks in the door. A lot of the guys committed have known him since they were born. It is rumored he is simply building this thing up at Kansas to get a college gig in LA specifically LSU, again just rumors.
When I mean connections it does not matter which public program in New Orleans he is basically family the minute he walks in the door. A lot of the guys committed have known him since they were born. It is rumored he is simply building this thing up at Kansas to get a college gig in LA specifically LSU, again just rumors.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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sugar coat
No sugar coating here, baw. I'm woke.
Bottom line is, 2017 was an extremely good class. Orgeron gets credit for keeping it mostly together in a transition year and adding some nice pieces at the end. He gets little credit for assembling it.
And focusing only on the Louisiana component of THAT PARTICULAR class is myopic.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:37 pm to whitefoot
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Bottom line is, 2017 was an extremely good class. Orgeron gets credit for keeping it mostly together in a transition year and adding some nice pieces at the end. He gets little credit for assembling it.
and i said he did.
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And focusing only on the Louisiana component of THAT PARTICULAR class is myopic.
yeah because we should all be ok with seeing home grown talented ILB and DTs go to bama. sure we dont need LB and Dt depth. come on. no one is saying the 2017 class wasnt great.
you follows recruiting. it doesnt piss you off to see the best LA LB recruit since brady james,another talented lb and a talented DT go to bama?
we cant let a trend start of us losing home grown talent.
and again im talking about lsu in general. not just O.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:39 pm to MLCLyons
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wasn't O the Recruiting coordinator that year your giving all the praise to Miles
So if you were a head coach you would apparently be stupid enough to allow an assistant coach and a recruiting coordinator to choose for you who to recruit. If Les Miles was really that stupid, then no wonder his recruiting sucked and he ended up getting fired. It's obviously because he was a mentally handicapped retard just like you, that sportstiger nutcase, and that rickdaddy gay person.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:42 pm to Space Cowboy
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. It's obviously because he was a mentally handicapped retard just like you.
how are you still posting here? you never actually talk football. you just run that dick sucker of yours at anyone that doesnt think O cums ice cream.
youre too stupid to realize the poster was saying O deserved the credit
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:42 pm to Space Cowboy
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So if you were a head coach you would apparently be stupid enough to allow an assistant coach and a recruiting coordinator to choose for you who to recruit. If Les Miles was really that stupid, then no wonder his recruiting sucked and he ended up getting fired. It's obviously because he was a mentally handicapped retard just like you.
Pretty sure the guy you're responding to is taking up for O
Just fyi
The rest of your post(s) are cringe worthy
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:44 pm to SportTiger1
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Pretty sure the guy you're responding to is taking up for O
Just fyi
The rest of your post(s) are cringe worthy
exactly. he is literally the dumbest poster on here
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:45 pm to Space Cowboy
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he was a mentally handicapped retard just like you, that sportstiger nutcase, and that rickdaddy gay person
nice edit corky.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:47 pm to SportTiger1
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What's up with the '18 class?
Overall, it's currently mediocre.
I'm fine with judging Orgeron on the 2018 class, but you're solely focusing on Louisiana. For Louisiana prospects, it's a down year for the state and top heavy with receivers. I don't think we can even take all 5 of those receivers even if they all wanted to come. I still think we'll end up with 6-8 of those top 10 guys though. Also, Rogers knee injury looks like it could be a two year injury, so I'm not even sure if we should try and flip him (and I think we probably could).
The 2019 class better look a lot like that 2016 class you posted.
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