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The "Why would (insert coach) want to come here" Argument
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:03 pm
It's a load of crap. First of all lots of people say, "Why Would Jimbo want to make a lateral move to LSU?".
First of all it's not a lateral move. LSU is one of the top 2-3 programs in the SEC. Facilities, Recruiting Base, Fan support, Money, Location...all better than FSU. FSU sucked before Bowden, sucked at the end of Bowden, and Jimbo got them back on track. In addition they have to compete with Florida for recruits in addition to other schools raiding the state.
Secondly, these coaches like a challenge. "Having it Made" somewhere isn't a reason they stay. I guarantee you Jimbo wanted to be the HC at LSU when they hired Miles. He knows exactly what kind of success, prestige, and notoriety comes with winning and winning big at LSU. You'll be playing prime time on ESPN most of the time, or on CBS. Not the ACC back seat time slots at 12 noon on ESPN and ESPN2.
If the LSU coaching job opens up they'll be fighting over it. This is a BETTER job than Texas, TN, Nebraska, Florida(facilities suck), Miami. In fact LSU and Alabama are probably the 2 best jobs in the country. Enough with the "who will we hire better" junk. LSU will get a good coach if it opens up. PERIOD.
First of all it's not a lateral move. LSU is one of the top 2-3 programs in the SEC. Facilities, Recruiting Base, Fan support, Money, Location...all better than FSU. FSU sucked before Bowden, sucked at the end of Bowden, and Jimbo got them back on track. In addition they have to compete with Florida for recruits in addition to other schools raiding the state.
Secondly, these coaches like a challenge. "Having it Made" somewhere isn't a reason they stay. I guarantee you Jimbo wanted to be the HC at LSU when they hired Miles. He knows exactly what kind of success, prestige, and notoriety comes with winning and winning big at LSU. You'll be playing prime time on ESPN most of the time, or on CBS. Not the ACC back seat time slots at 12 noon on ESPN and ESPN2.
If the LSU coaching job opens up they'll be fighting over it. This is a BETTER job than Texas, TN, Nebraska, Florida(facilities suck), Miami. In fact LSU and Alabama are probably the 2 best jobs in the country. Enough with the "who will we hire better" junk. LSU will get a good coach if it opens up. PERIOD.
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:05 pm to Jeffreylebowski
LSU and UF are equal IMO until you take into account recruiting. LSU has a significant advantage.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:06 pm to cas4t
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If the LSU coaching job opens up they'll be fighting over it
Then why did we hire Steele at DC?
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:06 pm to Jeffreylebowski
I'm sure coaches will flock to LSU after y'all fire a coach with a 10-2 record. Y'all need to pump the breaks and evaluate after the season.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:07 pm to Jeffreylebowski
LSU is still a really cool school to play football at, despite what you read on the Rant, even if production wise skill position players are better off going elsewhere.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:07 pm to TheDeathValley
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Then why did we hire Steele at DC?
Because Miles. Do you not understand how that works? When a HC change is made, things significantly change.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:08 pm to Jeffreylebowski
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LSU is one of the top 2-3 programs in the SEC. Facilities, Recruiting Base
Everyone has nice facilities these days. Other sec teams pack their stadium, and Louisiana is behind the states of Texas, Florida and Georgia as far as amount of talent in state.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:09 pm to Jeffreylebowski
GREAT post....
pumpers will not be happy, which is odd considering how much they say they love LSU.
pumpers will not be happy, which is odd considering how much they say they love LSU.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:09 pm to dgnx6
TAMU facilities are unreal. Anyways.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:09 pm to cas4t
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LSU has a significantadvantage.
No they don't. Florida has 19 million people for crying out loud. This is laughable.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:10 pm to pivey14
quote:Miles will not be fired if he wins out and achieves this record. The speculation regarding his future assumes he loses more games this year.
I'm sure coaches will flock to LSU after y'all fire a coach with a 10-2 record.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:10 pm to dgnx6
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Louisiana is behind the states of Texas, Florida and Georgia as far as amount of talent in state.
NONE of those states has the luxury of having only one major program in state....fail.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:10 pm to Jeffreylebowski
I think the bigger picture people are forgetting here is that USC and Miami are also going to be hiring. As well as a bunch of mid level schools (missouri, south carlonia, maryland)
Texas and Texas A&M both will be in the market for a OC as well.
Competing for a coach against that is not a situation I wan't Joe Alleva to handle.
Texas and Texas A&M both will be in the market for a OC as well.
Competing for a coach against that is not a situation I wan't Joe Alleva to handle.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:11 pm to Jeffreylebowski
LSU is not a better job than Texas or Florida. That is simply wrong under any objective standard. LSU is a great job, but those are probably the two best jobs in the country.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:11 pm to CptBengal
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NONE of those states has the luxury of having only one major program in state....fail.
None of those states only have 4 million people jackass.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:12 pm to Jeffreylebowski
I agree totally with the OP. Soooo many coaches out there prob drooling over wanting to coach this talent here. Louisiana is a hot bed of talent and it isnt slowing down, and who do we have to recruit against here? Saban may come grab a few guys here and there but for the most part LSU has their pick of players in Louisiana and a pretty good part of texas
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:12 pm to CptBengal
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NONE of those states has the luxury of having only one major program in state....fail.
Unless you're Butch Jones, you can only take 25 kids a year. There are plenty of recruits in Florida for Florida and everyone else.
Same with Georgia and Texas.Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:13 pm to dgnx6
Fair point but south LA specifically produces an unusual amount of talent. To discount that is laughable. Look at Miami in the 80s. They didn't recruit all over the state. They zoned in on the inner cities of Miami.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:13 pm to dgnx6
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None of those states only have 4 million people jackass.
how many major D1 programs are in Texas?
come on, do the math....
How many major D1 programs are in FL?
come on, do the math pumper....
The only state with a possibility of being close in GA.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:13 pm to tigerfan5803
People on the rant don't appreciate how attractive of a coaching job LSU really is. It has an advantage on EVERY SCHOOL IN AMERICA. A talent rich state with no in-state competition.
Texas gets less and less attractive every year. High profile coaches are control freaks and don't want the administration/alumni nightmare you get in ATX.
Texas gets less and less attractive every year. High profile coaches are control freaks and don't want the administration/alumni nightmare you get in ATX.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 12:15 pm
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