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re: The TigerDroppings.com Preseason Top 25 Poll

Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:09 am to
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:09 am to
Supah/Chicken, whats the status of the board? We've had two big arse threads on it already

I can't remember prominent's reasons for voting Mizzou #1 anymore
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:14 am to
quote:

okay, so by that logic, shouldn't the defending #2 be the defending #2, and #3 and so on?


No, that's not the logic at all.
There is only one earned CHAMPION,
the others are rankings. I treat the national champion concept as an earned HONOR.
It is a position that no one else has.

It has nothing to do with the others...
they are not the Champion.


This post was edited on 8/27/08 at 9:19 am
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:22 am to
supes, with the monday night games this week, you should push back the entry time for this coming tuesday
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93771 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:24 am to
quote:

I can't remember prominent's reasons for voting Mizzou #1 anymore


Pay attention a little more on the MSB I've been arguing my reasonings for a month.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:39 am to
quote:

There is only one earned CHAMPION


agreed, they are the champion from the 2007 season

quote:

I treat the national champion concept as an earned HONOR.
It is a position that no one else has


same could be said about #2, and #3 and so on


if 1 team can carry their earned ranking from the previous season, then all have to

the idea is ridiculous anyway (to carry rankings from one season to next), because rationality actually makes a difference in these polls, BUT to insinuate that only last years rankings shuld carry over for 1 team and not everyone really just takes it to a new level

Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:02 am to
quote:

if 1 team can carry their earned ranking from the previous season, then all have to


no they do not,
they are NOT National Champions.
There is only 1 National Champion each year and it should carry that as a fringe benefit
here is a by-product of such benefit too..
as it is now, teams like USC WHO DO NOT PLAY A CONFERENCE TITLE GAME, w/out having played what could possibly be a team of their same caliber.
If the 1 position was automatically populated from last year's champion...as soon as they loose,...
then the 1 position could have a little more
room for debate...
when was the last time that the PRESEASON poll was right anyway?
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27541 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:19 am to
Just watch LSU go undefeated and get left out of the BCSNCG as a result of the start in the polls. Then people will change their mind.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:33 am to
quote:

no they do not,
they are NOT National Champions.
There is only 1 National Champion each year and it should carry that as a fringe benefit
here is a by-product of such benefit too..
as it is now, teams like USC WHO DO NOT PLAY A CONFERENCE TITLE GAME, w/out having played what could possibly be a team of their same caliber.
If the 1 position was automatically populated from last year's champion...as soon as they loose,...
then the 1 position could have a little more
room for debate...
when was the last time that the PRESEASON poll was right anyway?


you feel very strongly about being wrong don't you? (psst., hey don't tell anyoneone, but lose only has 1 o)
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34488 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:39 am to
you cant have a system where only one teams ranking is based of last year. bc we are defending champs is the only reason your saying this. to ensure the returning champs dont get screwed they need to be #1.

what do you u do for the 24 other teams?

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34488 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Just watch LSU go undefeated and get left out of the BCSNCG as a result of the start in the polls. Then people will change their mind.


no team ever again will go undeated in the sec and be left out of the national championship.

Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3858 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

and is returning that offense something to celebrate?


Yes, it is. In '02 we had one of the worst offenses I can remember but had a nasty defense that carried us through the season and eventually won us a championship. At one point late in the season we were THIRD TO LAST in total offense in the nation, yet still went 14-0. Our best offensive play that year was the punt, and that's no joke.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27541 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Yes, it is. In '02 we had one of the worst offenses I can remember but had an easy schedule that carried us through the season and eventually won us a championship. At one point late in the season we were THIRD TO LAST in total offense in the nation, yet still went 14-0. Our best offensive play that year was the punt, and that's no joke.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3858 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

so you have 3 SEC teams to start the top 10, then 4 big 12 teams to finish the top ten...AND, you are a LSU (sec) fan living in Texas (big 12)


Exactly. Please take your blinders off. Believe it or not, in-conference teams actually play each other and somebody has to lose.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3858 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Yes, it is. In '02 we had one of the worst offenses I can remember but had an easy schedule that carried us through the season and eventually won us a championship.


Interesting...

OOC games vs Wash St (went to Rose Bowl that year), Texas Tech and Cincy, conf wins vs Wisconsin, Purdue, Penn St and Michigan, and a win over Miami in the NCG to break their 34 game winning streak. How embarrassing!
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

no they do not,
they are NOT National Champions.
There is only 1 National Champion each year and it should carry that as a fringe benefit
here is a by-product of such benefit too..
as it is now, teams like USC WHO DO NOT PLAY A CONFERENCE TITLE GAME, w/out having played what could possibly be a team of their same caliber.
If the 1 position was automatically populated from last year's champion...as soon as they loose,...
then the 1 position could have a little more
room for debate...
when was the last time that the PRESEASON poll was right anyway?


this is why the poll isn't open to everyone IMO
Posted by Peytonknows
NOLA
Member since Nov 2006
16465 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27541 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

OOC games vs Wash St (went to Rose Bowl that year), Texas Tech and Cincy, conf wins vs Wisconsin, Purdue, Penn St and Michigan, and a win over Miami in the NCG to break their 34 game winning streak. How embarrassing!


Wash St.
Texas Tech
Cincinattie
Wisconsin
Purdue
Penn State
Michigan
????

Really? Which one of these teams is supposed to impress us?

The Miami win in the NCG is the only win that is worth while from that entire year. They were the best team to ever put on a uniform. That is, until Oklahoma suited up in 2003...
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