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re: The TigerDroppings.com Preseason Top 25 Poll

Posted on 8/27/08 at 1:21 am to
Posted by Ironhead Haywood
Laguna Beach, California
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/27/08 at 1:21 am to
I think that Ohio States #1 ranking is based on the easy Big-10 schedule
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 7:56 am to
Rank... Team

1... LSU . Mel Kiper say "LSU is #1 until someone beats them. I agree with the man. That statement is an undeniable FACT.
Is that not what
DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION means?
DEFENDING NATIONAL # 1 spot?

2... Georgia
3... Florida
4... Ohio State
5... USC
6... West Virginia
7... Missouri
8... Oklahoma
9... Texas
10...Texas Tech
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:11 am to
for the record, Alabama didn't get my #25 spot like he did for so many. Until they can beat Miss State, they aren't close to being a top 25 team.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:15 am to
My vote for Bama was more of a sympathy vote...like how Spurrier pencils in Duke at 25 every year. If they win they'll stay but they'll probably fall out.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93802 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:26 am to
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My vote for Bama was more of a sympathy vote.


Why? They may have as many as 9 true freshmen playing this year. Slackhouse said it best. Until they can beat ULM or Miss. St......they are out of the 25. I have Tulsa @ 25. Right now, I believe Tulsa can beat Alabama.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:28 am to
I couldn't really think of who to put there. In hindsight maybe UConn should have tbh imo fwiw.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
93802 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:30 am to
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I couldn't really think of who to put there. In hindsight maybe UConn should have tbh imo fwiw.


you do know that it doesn't have to be a list of 25 BCS teams, correct?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54282 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:30 am to
quote:

LSU . Mel Kiper say "LSU is #1 until someone beats them. I agree with the man. That statement is an undeniable FACT.


um, not it isn't...LSU was #1 till the new polls came out

quote:

1... LSU . Mel Kiper say "LSU is #1 until someone beats them. I agree with the man. That statement is an undeniable FACT.
Is that not what
DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION means?
DEFENDING NATIONAL # 1 spot?

2... Georgia
3... Florida
4... Ohio State
5... USC
6... West Virginia
7... Missouri
8... Oklahoma
9... Texas
10...Texas Tech


so you have 3 SEC teams to start the top 10, then 4 big 12 teams to finish the top ten...AND, you are a LSU (sec) fan living in Texas (big 12)


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
This post was edited on 8/27/08 at 8:32 am
Posted by TheEdge
Member since Apr 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:31 am to
I gave Pitt my 25th.

I'm not buying into the hype and setting them up in the teens, but McCoy is a beast.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:33 am to
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you do know that it doesn't have to be a list of 25 BCS teams, correct?


Oh, so its ok that I put BYU at 14?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93802 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:34 am to
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Oh, so its ok that I put BYU at 14?


at least you got my point.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:44 am to
quote:

so you have 3 SEC teams to start the top 10, then 4 big 12 teams to finish the top ten...AND, you are a LSU (sec) fan living in Texas (big 12)


living in Texas does not take the Tiger out of me.
having to watch the Big 12 instead of SEC games is my punishment in life-lol
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54282 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:52 am to
the other question i have about your top 10....IF LSU is #1, shouldn't the rest of your top 10 be....

#2 UGA
#3 USC
#4 Missouri
#5 Ohio State
#6 West Virginia
#7 Kansas
#8 Oklahoma
#9 Virginia Tech
#10 Texas

?

why is LSU the only team to carry over their final ranking?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 8:59 am to
quote:

why is LSU the only team to carry over their final ranking?


by definition only.....
in my opinion Champion = 1
we are the defending National Champion so we should be defending #1.
this is a PRESEASON POLL....
after the season starts, the IN-SEASON polls will take over. My feeling is that whoever the National Champion was the year before, should start as # 1 in the "PRESEASON" poll.

Now, we will be the Defending National Champions up to and until the next BCS NC game is played and someone else takes the spot.

Once the IN-SEASON polls come out, OTHER factors will come into play and we may or may not be # 1.

Here is another viewpoint:
Since we know that when a team is #1, it is hard to knock them off the position, should the benefit of the doubt not go to the Defending National Champion ?.....until such time as the in-season polls factor in other things???

It think it should be an automatic,
call it tradition, call it respect, call it whatever......
for the PRESEASON poll only......
this would also allow a little maneuvering ofr the top spot when such # 1 stumbles...if they do.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27772 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:01 am to
I gave Mississippi State my #25 spot. Based solely out of respect for Croom and the fact that everyone else had Bama around that spot. I figure if people can put Bama at 25, I can put a team that owns them in their place.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54282 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:04 am to
quote:

we are the defending National Champion so we should be defending #1


okay, so by that logic, shouldn't the defending #2 be the defending #2, and #3 and so on?

why should this ONLY apply to the #1 team

if you reward 1 team for last seasons accomplishments, you should reward them all....which is why you can't carry rankings from one year to the next...starting florida at #13 is just as absurd as starting LSU #1





Posted by TheEdge
Member since Apr 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:05 am to
quote:


I gave Mississippi State my #25 spot. Based solely out of respect for Croom and the fact that everyone else had Bama around that spot. I figure if people can put Bama at 25, I can put a team that owns them in their place.


That is a pretty good choice. I think M. State finishes third in the SEC West again. They have to watch out for Bama, but I think they have one year of superiority left for sure.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:05 am to
quote:

okay, so by that logic, shouldn't the defending #2 be the defending #2, and #3 and so on?

why should this ONLY apply to the #1 team

if you reward 1 team for last seasons accomplishments, you should reward them all....which is why you can't carry rankings from one year to the next...starting florida at #13 is just as absurd as starting LSU #1


Awesome post...I never thought about it like that...
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54282 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I figure if people can put Bama at 25, I can put a team that owns them in their place.


dude, no way should ULM be ranked in the top 25...sorry
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87626 posts
Posted on 8/27/08 at 9:06 am to
quote:

we are the defending National Champion so we should be defending #1.


this season has absolutely nothing to do with last season

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