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re: The targeting ejection on Skalski
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:08 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:08 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Technically, it was targeting. However, the intent was simply not there.
The victory was a little less sweet without him on te field. You want all hands on deck for an event like that.
The victory was a little less sweet without him on te field. You want all hands on deck for an event like that.
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:12 am to ForeverEllisHugh
At first, when they stopped play to review, I grumbled that this was b.s. Then, watching the replay, the dude absolutely squatted and launched like a damn missile head first. Full force. I disagree with most targeting ejections, because they are normally unintentional. This was different. Dude needed to go...
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:14 am to prplngldtigr
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Hate the ejection part of the penalty
So you're good with a defensive player launching himself helmet first into say, an opponent's QB and taking him out and all the defense is penalized is 15 or 25 yards and the player committing the foul stays in the ball game?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:17 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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As a penalty, ie facemask/horse collar? Good rule.
Targeting is much more dangerous. Two tiers is too subjective as a judgement call. I agree that there is incidental crown of helmet contact just like there is incidental face masking, I don’t trust officials to apply it consistently.
They’ve already revised the rule once and I doubt they change it again anytime soon.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:24 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Anybody who thinks that you can make every tackle with your head up hasn't played the game. Head up is imo a quicker way to get a serious neck injury. If that is the case then why aren't rb's coached to make contact head up? Why does the rule favor offense over defense? I watched the play and the reruns like everybody else and did not see targeting. It was close but there was no head to head contact if Jefferson doesn't duck down and even then the head to head was incidental. Seems clear that Skalski's intent was to make a shoulder/chest high tackle.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:35 am to ForeverEllisHugh
From 20 yards away, I watched a high school player (RIP, Tyrell) die on the football field from doing the exact same thing in 2015 while makinga tackle. That call was made, not because of the hit itself, but because of how he did it by leading with the crown of his helmet. That part of the rule is not subjective to me.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 6:05 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:40 am to caddysdad
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:42 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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Hated it.
I hate the fact a player can not get up an run when he goes down without being touched. After all, it's tackle football and he wasn't tackled. Stupidest rule in college football.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:43 am to ForeverEllisHugh
That dude was intentionally trying to wound people. He needed his arse kicked out.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:47 am to ForeverEllisHugh
College football is the only level of football where there’s an ejection. Rule is unfair to the athlete. Needs to be changed
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:50 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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takes two for ejection unless you straight up punch/kick someone.
I knew this bad suggestion would appear, and I'll make this point again which no one wants to address.
Let's say the rule is 2 Targetting calls and you're out. Let's say Skalski has that hit and another, both knocking LSU players out of the game.
Are you ok with losing 2 guys for one reckless player?
That's a terrible suggestion for a change. It needs to be what it is, because these players need to understand that they are putting their safety and the safety of other players at risk with these types of hits.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:51 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Sending the kid to the locker room after the penalty seems like overkill to me. it's not like he punched someone or intentionally tried to hurt someone.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:53 am to drexyl
So change the rule. We all dealt with this last on LSU.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:53 am to drexyl
I love this argument. He DID try to intentionally hurt someone. Luckily Jefferson adjusted his head at the last moment and didn’t take the hit dead arse on with his own head.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:54 am to Cowboyfan89
I think if contact to the head or neck area of an opposing player, it’s ejections. If it’s leading with crown below head or neck area, 15 yards and a warning that another is ejection.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:54 am to drexyl
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it's not like he punched someone or intentionally tried to hurt someone.
You sure about that? Last I checked Justin was a person.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:55 am to caddysdad
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It was close but there was no head to head contact if Jefferson doesn't duck down and even then the head to head was incidental. Seems clear that Skalski's intent was to make a shoulder/chest high tackle.
If you watched it so much then maybe you need to listen to Herbstreit and the rules expert discuss it. Skalski led with the crown of his helmet; by rule, it's targeting regardless of where he intended to him him. He was making contact with the crown regardless of where he hits Jefferson, which is against the rule.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:57 am to caddysdad
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It was close but there was no head to head contact if Jefferson doesn't duck down and even then the head to head was incidental.
That is not why he was ejected. JJ was not defenseless at that point so that part of the rule doesn't apply. You CAN NOT duck your head and lead with the crown of your helmet. That is why he was ejected. Period.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:57 am to ForeverEllisHugh
He led with crown of helmet
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:02 am to BallChamp00
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If it’s leading with crown below head or neck area, 15 yards and a warning that another is ejection.
That still leaves the potential that a guy like Skalski, who was delivering hammering hits all night, knocks 2 LSU players out before he gets ejected.
I know that would not be a common occurrence, but you have guys like that roaming around on other defenses. It's not just Skalski. I'm not in favor of giving a guy like that any rope. He wants to play old school football in a new era, and he's putting other people at risk.
It always amazes me how people think college football players should be paid, but then have an issue with a rule that protects an amateur athlete from potentially having his life ruined when he isn't being paid.
Hell, LSU has a guy on their defense whose grandfather had his career ended on a hit like that. Ended up a quadriplegic.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 6:03 am
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