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re: The tale of Lowell Narcisse

Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7339 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 8:03 pm to
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Tell me more about everything that points to this. I’m interested in hearing about it.


Horrible accuracy and lack of knowledge with the offense. Anything else buttercup?
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:22 pm to
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Howyouluhdat


Kid was in a shotgun single read then tuck it and run offense in HS. In a career that had essentially 50% of it wiped out by serious injury. He had no need to understand the intricacies of a route tree in the system and possessing of the skill set he was blessed with.

Did you expect him to be able to tell you the difference between Air Coryell and Earhardt/Perkins as they pertain to schematic and nomenclature differences? Nevermind, don’t bother. No sense in you spending time Googling when we both know you can’t compare and contrast them anymore than Lowell.

He’s redshirted and focused on getting healthy. He had 3 kids above him. His objective was to get stronger, drop the bad weight he had put on and get himself ready physically.

It’s a shopworn line here but it’s true: I’ll take the QB Coaches, OC’s and Offensive evaluators at Clemson and Auburn over you any day-no offense to your learned and obviously deep and abiding talent eval prowess, mind you-and both of those programs wanted him.

But hey...what do I know. Obviously you’ve watched more practices than I have. In Fall on the Ponderosa I saw a colt. A guy who had Cam Newton like measirables and arm talent for days...but incredibly lacking in footwork and technique. Issues he never had to concern himself with before. Issues that made it look and if he could chuck a ball through a brick wall on one rep. Then chuck it over the wall on the next rep.

Issues which were tangible and easy to see...and easily correctable with time and repetition.

From the horses mouth, you have no clue WTF you’re talking about with regard to his grasp of the offense. But he has many miles to go to compete credibly from a technique and footwork perspective. He’s also got less experience on the field than anyone on the roster at that spot, which weighs against him as well.

But at his age, considering his lack of experience and a lack of focus on the finer points of the position before college, the book on Lowell Narcisse isn’t written. Hell the first Chapter isn’t done. Yet here you are comparing him to JJ9.

I love the Rant. People like yourself freely out themselves as the types you can just scroll right past in threads when looking for anything resembling intelligent discussion.
This post was edited on 12/23/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:40 pm to
6'3"
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:53 pm to
Maybe Narcisse will be a huge stud. Idk. But I just cannot get super excited for a guy who had to sit out his entire junior and senior year of high school because of injury.

I'm team Brennan all the way.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 12/23/17 at 11:53 pm to
A feature back is the real question in 2018 and beyond. When do you think we will realistically be in contention
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7339 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:21 am to
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GFunk



Are you arguing with me or against me Lowell? Sounds like you pretty much confirmed exactly what I said. His footwork is sloppy therefore his accuracy sucks. He hasn’t grasped the offense because he didn’t need to learn one in high school. Exactly what I said. Brennan will get the nod. They didn’t get him in games this year to get experience so he can ride the pine. He’s our guy
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 6:28 am to
Maybe you and your type need to shut up and listen to people who know more than you do.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29187 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 7:51 am to
(sigh). Dual threat means the QB is a threat to run or pass. If the reports about LN's trouble with accuracy and learning the playbook are true, then he's where we were with BH. BH was a good runner and a terrible passer. Not a dual threat. Same with JJ. Hurts isn't a great passer but teams have to at least cover his receivers and focus solely on him running.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 8:03 am to
Still stings we could not get this kid. He will be a great one for yall.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:16 pm to
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Howyouluhdat


quote:


Are you arguing with me or against me Lowell? Sounds like you pretty much confirmed exactly what I said. His footwork is sloppy therefore his accuracy sucks.


Which is not-in any way-a statement about his inability to get better in the next four years. Every QB that hits campus in every program in America needs to improve. This doesn’t prove or disprove any point you’re trying to make.

quote:

He hasn’t grasped the offense because he didn’t need to learn one in high school. Exactly what I said.


You compared him to Jordan Jefferson. There is no QB on campus that hit Baton Rouge not needing to improve their grasp of the offense. Again this doesn’t prove or disprove anything you said. It also does not make Lowell Narcisse JJ9.

quote:

Brennan will get the nod. They didn’t get him in games this year to get experience so he can ride the pine. He’s our guy



Orgeron disagrees with you. Everything else in your post is demonstrably conjecture based on nothing tangible. Narcisse and Brennan are gonna both get their opportunities and whomever puts this team in the best position to win football games will get the nod.

But-again-no decision has been made, and LN is not nor will he ever be JJ9.

Using your logic, Rohan would have never seen the field again and you’d have slammed the door shut on his career after throwing 2 INT’s versus Auburn as a young QB. Your takes are laughably uninformed and reveal your lack of anything other than an opinion. One without context or perspective.

Get better takes, Bro. These suck more hog than you do.

ETA: Your dumb take wasn’t that hat he was JJ9. That dumbasses name was ibldpurplngld or some other nonsense on page 1. Having said that, nobody on the staff has their mind made up re: Brennan. Or Narcisse. There are plenty of folks who are close to Eaux who have been trying to tell the public there’s a real competition coming up.

But no, Brennan moving into the backup role isn’t closing the door or a signal that Narcisse isn’t going to get an opportunity. In fact if anything Brennan needs to focus on winning the starting job in Spring. If he can’t hold Narcisse off, he’s only going to get better (LN) in the offseason and Fall.

But believe what you want.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 3:20 pm to
Naw.

Against SEC defenses, a top caliber contender needs a mobile QB. I’m not saying Mike Vick, but I am saying someone with at least some scootability.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7339 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:53 am to
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GFunk


You are confusing me with another poster. I didn’t compare LN to anybody. I just answered your question
This post was edited on 12/25/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7661 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 10:10 am to
BH was a terrible runner.
Posted by Jeff Goldblum
Gardner, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1039 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 10:50 am to
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If you have two QBs you don’t have a QB


That's the most stupid quote in the history of quotes!

The main reason you have a single QB play nearly all the time is because of roster limitations both in college and NFL. The dropoff between the top QB and the next best QB is usually substantial.

But some college teams have won national championships with multiple QBs playing during the year (Florida, Ohio State come to mind). LSU may be in that rare position where we have 2 QBs of different talent, but both elite enough that they give defenses much to think about during game preparation.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4028 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:47 pm to
Except the last championship game Jefferson couldn't get us past midfield but he could scramble tho.lol !!! Granted, I'll take the running ability but Flynn and mauck weren't blazers but were just nifty enough to elude the rush and pick up first downs.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4028 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:56 pm to
There's a "lot" of qbs in college and the pros that were busts that they said had a high ceiling or a great upside. Totally agree with you. May the best qb win the job and everybody just accept the one who gets picked and hope they help us light up the scoreboards and win a national championship.
Posted by Fisherchef Jeff
Ohio
Member since Dec 2014
110 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 10:44 pm to
I agree, use DT/Brennan based on opponents defense for 3/4 game unless score dictates otherwise. Keep em guessing each week. Use them both to their maximum efficiencies!
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 7:55 am to
So Aubie, you honestly think that Narcisse would beat out Stidham? Lol.

He would be right where he is at LSU. Not playing.
This post was edited on 12/26/17 at 7:59 am
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 11:58 am to
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Neither Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, nor Tom Brady could make plays consistently with their feet. So let me get this straight, you’re saying we cannot win a national championship with those caliber QBs? 


Did one of them win a national championship?

Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2432 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:48 pm to
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