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The SEC replay booth in Birmingham can find Xavier Lewis's hit

Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50485 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:02 pm
and call for a review but on the punt that may have hit the Missouri player they don't even review that, LSU had to call a timeout to get them to look.

Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:06 pm to
Hate to say but i did see it watching game on tv. The mizz player had most of the replay blocked, but he did lead with helmet
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:07 pm to
that was some sloppy, unprofessional officiating on those two plays. How you can go through a TV timeout with your head up your rear, then once play is resumed allow the ball to be snapped and then step in and say the "previous play is under review."

On the muffed punt, typically a receiver who does NOT touch the ball doesn't take off like his pants are on fire to retrieve the bouncing ball.

I don't think this is any "anti-LSU" thing just incompetent officiating.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
5525 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:18 pm to
Yep, and I would love for anyone to show me where there was INDISPUTABLE evidence to "confirm" the non-touch.

This is the second time we have gotten screwed on this type of terminology. I can almost live with the statement that there was not enough evidence to overturn, but that also means that there is nothing to "prove" the current call either.

Someone needs to keep stats on Alabama and these kinds of calls to prove this bias. I bet it would be eye opening BIG TIME.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15239 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

How you can go through a TV timeout with your head up your rear, then once play is resumed allow the ball to be snapped and then step in and say the "previous play is under review."


This is SEC policy. Yes, you read that right.

Hanigriff was going off about this in the post game show.

The SEC Policy is to not review a play during a TV timeout. The commissioner was really adamant about NOT doing reviews during commercials.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
22619 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:22 pm to
I agree with everything you said, but from one angle it shows the ball like 6 inches from his hand. It didn't touch him. Now whether he thought he touched, he's taught to chase it down and fall on it. You're right, normally that would give it away, but in this case he didn't touch it.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:23 pm to
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The commissioner was really adamant about NOT doing reviews during commercials


This is insane. Are they saying it would be disrespectful to the sponsors if 3 retired referees watched a replay instead of a commercial?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20957 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Yep, and I would love for anyone to show me where there was INDISPUTABLE evidence to "confirm" the non-touch.


I was at the game and in the SEZ Lower Upper. They played a zoom replay on the big board that showed the appearance that the ball hit the Mizzou player's finger. I watched the game later on replay and none of the TV replays showed this zoom shot.

Looking at that view on the humongous screen was different than what I saw at home on 48" flat screen. What I saw was not the ball changing but the players finger being bent backwards. The ball was so close to the ground that you could not tell if the changed trajectory or spin.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
5525 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:28 pm to
This proves my point, I have seen nothing that shows me that you could tell either way. How many times do teams have to get screwed before Gumps admit the bias?
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
82085 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

How you can go through a TV timeout with your head up your rear, then once play is resumed allow the ball to be snapped and then step in and say the "previous play is under review."


yea that made no sense
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63306 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

The SEC replay booth in Birmingham can find Xavier Lewis's hit


but they can't review the fight at halftime? Long after the initial scuffle, after most of the LSU players saw what was happpening and ran over for support, someone from Mizzou chunked a ball at the LSU players.

Why not review that and eject a player?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10072 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:43 pm to
The "confirmed" call was the worst. As the ball is very near his hand you suddenly see yellow on his thumb flash quickly as it were bent back. Mizzou players wear gloves that are black on the backs and.... you guessed it, yellow on the palms. The ball bent his finger back which is why he ran after it like crazy trying to cover it.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

but they can't review the fight at halftime?


We couldn't tell what was going on from our seats. Please elaborate.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:01 pm to
The problem I have is that this year there is supposed to be a presumption of a fumble, then review. The officials on the field did not presume fumble (or muff), despite the reaction of the Missouri player. If the presumption of a fumble had been made was there sufficient evidence to overturn the call?

I have serious issues with the whole review process. When they review they take all the time to get as close to perfection for spotting the ball and getting the clock right. What makes those requirements so important on the few plays meriting review, but completely irrelevant on all other plays? Why doesn't getting the clock exactly right on all plays matter as much as just a few plays? Getting the clock right is one thing the review process can do accurately on just about every play.
Posted by TigerDom
Puerto Rico
Member since Jun 2004
5570 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:33 pm to
They definitely should have stepped in when the replay in the Auburn game showed the Auburn player headbutting Etling in the face after Dannys helmet had been knocked off. That Auburn player should have been ejected.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27914 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:33 pm to
Office is in Birmingham bro. Ritter has it in for LSU.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

yea that made no sense


I assume it is for the appearance of transparency, however it comes at the expense of the appearance of competence.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63306 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

We couldn't tell what was going on from our seats. Please elaborate.



From what I could tell, the last play of the half (way to pad your stats Mizzou, calling a timeout with 3 seconds left to throw a quick screen and accomplish nothing) ended with two LSU players forcing a the Mizzou ball carrier out of bounds. Some words were exchanged and the Mizzou receiver shoved the game ball in the face of one of the LSU players. As the LSU players took exception to that, their teammates who had been heading to the locker room saw the commotion and ran over for backup. While both teams were facing each other with coaches/refs in the middle pushing kids back, someone from the Mizzou side tossed a football about from about 10 yards away into the crowd of LSU players.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40435 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:58 pm to
kid doesn't chase a muffed punt if he didn't touch it
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3079 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

The problem I have is that this year there is supposed to be a presumption of a fumble, then review.


It wasn't a fumble. That is indisputable.

quote:

The officials on the field did not presume . . . muff . . .


Nor should they.

quote:



If the presumption of a fumble had been made . . .


It wasn't a fumble. A fumble is not a muff. A muff is not a fumble. Keep repeating this to yourself until it sinks in.
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