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re: The Russell Shepard story
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:11 am to Slinger16
Posted on 2/14/10 at 4:11 am to Slinger16
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Has a single player ever started for Miles from day 1?
saying this about miles is kinda stupid. when was the last time a true freshman started from day one at lsu? if you look back, i'm sure its not just a les miles thing, its a coaching thing.
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Posted on 2/14/10 at 6:57 am to ottothewise
Everyone repeat after me...slowly. "Russell Shepard will not play QB at LSU." Very good, continue class.
This post was edited on 2/14/10 at 6:59 am
Posted on 2/14/10 at 8:51 am to ottothewise
I didn't read it cause it's to long but if you said that Russell Shepard really wasn't physically ready for SEC play last season and that he should be more ready this season, then you would be correct in your assessment. There are a lot of superstars in waiting on top tier SEC teams and who makes it to the top sometimes just depends on how a player develops physically and mentally. It's a big jump from high school to college ball and sometimes it takes a little time to get there and sometimes some players never get there. I just depends.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 8:57 am to SNAPPERHEAD
He will be great when Les lets him play when he is a jr. 
Posted on 2/14/10 at 9:07 am to cajunjj
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He will be great when Les lets him play when he is a jr
This is a real cop out comment to the discussion, and not that funny.
RS does need to add some mass to go into that slot role, I would imagine this is possible considering last spring/summer he put on some good mass (20lbs?). I also think he'll embrace this role on the field.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 9:18 am to ottothewise
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Glad to now that I inspried this thread. I really feel that Les Miles and Crowton are going to do their best ruin this great athlete. I ZERO confidence in them as coaches.
Glad to now that I inspried this thread. I really feel that Les Miles and Crowton are going to do their best ruin this great athlete. I ZERO confidence in them as coaches.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 10:08 am to Prominentwon
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Does anyone ACTUALLY KNOW how much of the book he knows and how he performs in practice? TIA.
yes, and what would you have said as coach and mentor, in spring, in summer and during the year.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 10:14 am to ZTiger87
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So the real question was if anyone has come in and started every game as a true freshman. Because Peterson played in every game and was the 5th db most of the time until he began to start.
the actual OP was: have you got any real info? And whether you do or not, speculate on how you would have approached this situation if you were the coaches.
The question of whether others have started as freshmen under Miles was an addition detail by a later poster.
I think the answer of PP is not relevant, since he is not a QB and not a slot back. PP/PJohnson plays DB. Allow me to opine that's waaay easier to learn than QB.
Remember the player wanted to play QB. So since you are the coach, how do you deal with that? He is also willing to learn other positions, so he gets on the field. What is best for him, and the team?
This post was edited on 2/14/10 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/14/10 at 10:18 am to SNAPPERHEAD
What's the purpose of this chirade?...from what I've read, its just another take on a nega-tigers view....GIVE IT A REST...YOU are not on the staff of coach's at LSU...opinions are like buttholes..everybody has one, some are a litte sh... than others....
Posted on 2/14/10 at 10:36 am to Stagg8
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But how hard would it be for him to run an actual spread option.
I think you are missing the boat. It's not that it would be hard on him...it's that the coaching staff doesn't have the ability to implement an effective spread option offense.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 10:44 am to Slinger16
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He did. Zinger was out for the majority of Dickson's freshman year.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I'm not sure why I remembered Zinger playing in '07. Maybe he came back in the MNC?
Posted on 2/14/10 at 10:47 am to cepheid
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I didn't read it cause it's to long but if you said that Russell Shepard really wasn't physically ready for SEC play last season and that he should be more ready this season, then you would be correct in your assessment. There are a lot of superstars in waiting on top tier SEC teams and who makes it to the top sometimes just depends on how a player develops physically and mentally. It's a big jump from high school to college ball and sometimes it takes a little time to get there and sometimes some players never get there. I just depends.
When you have an athlete with the special abilities of Russell Shepard, you get him the football somehow, someway. When your offense is ranked 112th and you have an athlete on your team that is possibly a once in a decade recruit, just give him the football a half dozen times a game.
Sheps average per touch was good enough to warrant a few touches in EVERY game. Shep didn't run any complicated plays at LSU, yet was effective enough overall to warrant a few more touches. Sitting him entire games is unforgivable.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 10:57 am to Stagg8
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Hell, the kid blew up 5-A ball in Houston
Yep, defenses for 5-A ball in Houston are every bit the equal to SEC and major college defenses.
Come on, Staggs. You generally make pretty good sense but this is a reach, don't you think?
I would have liked to see the kid throw the ball once in a while but I think Les and Crowton felt the kid was athletic and shifty enough that he could turn those runs into big plays and probably could have as evidenced against Auburn with some decent line play.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 11:00 am to MiketheTiger69
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Yep, defenses for 5-A ball in Houston are every bit the equal to SEC and major college defenses.
Sorry for mentioning that the kid played in the toughest division of high school football in the country.
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Come on, Staggs. You generally make pretty good sense but this is a reach, don't you think?
No. I'm not saying 5-A ball in Houston is the same as the SEC. I'm saying it makes for the one of the best judges of talent in the nation.
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I would have liked to see the kid throw the ball once in a while but I think Les and Crowton felt the kid was athletic and shifty enough that he could turn those runs into big plays and probably could have as evidenced against Auburn with some decent line play.
Again, I don't even care that he didn't throw the ball, but he was recruited to run the spread option. He ran the spread option in high school maybe better than anyone in the country. He finally gets to LSU, and he didn't run a legitimate spread option once in his freshman year. It's ridiculous to take a 190 pound kid and run him over and over in designed QB draws.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 11:55 am to filmmaker45
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I think that we'll see him alot more this season. A whole lot more.
+1 with a heaping helping of hope.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 12:36 pm to Stagg8
Thank you
Posted on 2/14/10 at 12:52 pm to ottothewise
Good post. My only point of contention is this: we have all seen his HS film, I feel that he is more than adequate as a passer in a limited role. If they trust KW to throw halfback passes, RS can throw a couple passes. He doesn't have to be QB, but I think that is a wrinkle that would be a very powerful weapon for us if used properly. I'm not mad that they didn't, but the more he touches the ball, the better, IMO.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 1:14 pm to Stagg8
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Yeah, now that you mention it, I'm not sure why I remembered Zinger playing in '07. Maybe he came back in the MNC?
You are thinking '06. Dickson was a freshman and got most of the PT at TE when Zinger went out.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 1:53 pm to ottothewise
russell shepard's high school highlights, (cause let's face it, that's what we base all this off of, he great then so he's suppose to be that great in his freshman year) he is an electric player. with the ball in his hands he's great.
but, too small to play rb, not good enough to play qb. he's electric in a percy harvin role. he'll line up in the slot, outside, rb, wc qb, or maybe just in the slot. return kicks, he'll be very good in just time.
wont ever play qb though, book that.
but, too small to play rb, not good enough to play qb. he's electric in a percy harvin role. he'll line up in the slot, outside, rb, wc qb, or maybe just in the slot. return kicks, he'll be very good in just time.
wont ever play qb though, book that.
Posted on 2/14/10 at 3:16 pm to jrich11
the coaching staff at LSU made some mistakes las year,but RS was lost on the field a lot. now i don't know if its coaching or what contributed to him bieng lost. all i know is if you have a player like RS ( plays lots of positions),you don't give him the whole playbook. you give him 5 plays to start with and make sure he knows all 5 plays from qb, rb and slot positions. then if he knows those plays you give him 5 more plays.
i just don't understand what this staff is doing. we have no identity.
i just don't understand what this staff is doing. we have no identity.
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