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re: The reason we sucked so bad in the NC game was...
Posted on 2/10/12 at 11:34 am to tigerhack
Posted on 2/10/12 at 11:34 am to tigerhack
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We sucked in the previous games. We dropped from 13th in offense to 26th in two games and the games were w. kentucky and ole miss. The SEC champ. game was over until our defense scored a TD to give a spark of life to the team.No first downs or completed passes in the first half of the game and this was from the number 1 team in the country.Yet we let this same QB start and finish the BCSNC game without trying to change to the 5th year senior who by the way lead us through the first 8 games undefeated and winning by double figures against WV and THE DUCKS.Piss poor coaching by the head coach caused the defeat not the players.
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Posted on 2/10/12 at 11:57 am to dstone12
Stop the run, stop the deep ball, you beat a jj offense
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:05 pm to MichiganTiger
First you type this statement:
And then you come back with this:
What the hell do you think happened? Oh that's right, Saban ultimately had the correct gameplan. And Miles did not counter it with the correct adjustments.
Looks pretty much like it falls on Miles to me.
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For some reason, people want to dump this one loss at LM's feet
And then you come back with this:
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we got pass on 1st down 16 out of the first 18 first downs. Bama totally changed their offensive scheme/system for our D. They relied on AJ to throw them into the NC...and boy did he deliver. They exploited TM7's poor height differential almost flawlessly. TM was all over the tall WR they threw at him, but AJ kept throwing a high and out ball that only his guy could get.
What the hell do you think happened? Oh that's right, Saban ultimately had the correct gameplan. And Miles did not counter it with the correct adjustments.
Looks pretty much like it falls on Miles to me.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:06 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
The reason? Poor coaching on the offensive side of the ball. Defense has been great all year but couldn't overcome the inexplicable coaching decisions of the head coach.
The main reason LSU had a 13 wins season was the quality of the players who were talented enough to overcome very very bad management of the games.
The main reason LSU had a 13 wins season was the quality of the players who were talented enough to overcome very very bad management of the games.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:07 pm to filmmaker45
Saban and the bama D had ZERO concerns about JJ throwing the ball deep on them. Their game plan was simple: stop the run and contain JJ on the edges.
Thats pretty much all it took.
Thats pretty much all it took.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:13 pm to GABlueDog
Please Stop these Threads. Its over.
:beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:
Mettenberger to OBJ all day next year.
:beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:
Mettenberger to OBJ all day next year.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:22 pm to beejon
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The main reason LSU had a 13 wins season was the quality of the players who were talented enough to overcome very very bad management of the games.
Are you really trying to say that winning by an average of 37-10 each game is because of talent alone? What would we have won by if there was good game management? 65-10?
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:25 pm to steelreign
Is it possible LSU sucked in the NC because Bama was better than LSU and LSU was fortunate to steal a win in T-Town on Nov. 5th?
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:30 pm to MichiganTiger
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We were screwed if we put our other limited QB in too!
Were we screwed when the LIMITED qb went undefeated and had LSU ranked # 1 in the nation?
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JL would have panicked in the face of Bama's rush and would have been a turnover machine.
And since you know this to be true if JL went into the game, then by all means give me the next Power Ball winning numbers.......
This post is about _____?_____ days too late. Please start another
post so we can ignore it...........
This post was edited on 2/10/12 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:38 pm to MichiganTiger
quote:1. Nearly every series, the offense failed to execute on at least one play. This year, Bama had the best defense in college football. It would have been difficult to beat Bama unless they made a costly mistake or the offense execute at a very high level.
The reason we sucked so bad in the NC game was...
2. The November 5th loss motivated Bama to better prepare for and play the NC game.
3. Bama was very well-prepared for the game. The Bama defense was fully prepared to shut down the option. The Bama defense was fully prepared to shut down LSU's deep threat.
4. Bama took greater risks to win the game. The Bama offense went in a completely different direction than it had all season relying on McCarron and a passing rather than Richardson and rushing to move the ball.
5. The play-calling could have been better but the Bama defense was very motivated and talented.
6. Subbing Lee for Jefferson probably would have been ineffective. At worst, Jefferson is an equivalent passer, an infinitely better runner, and has more ability to turn a bad play into a good one. Bama would have had no fear of a rushing attack with Lee at QB and would have eaten up Lee's passes. Although fairly accurate, Lee simply doesn't have the ability to be a probable threat to beat Bama's secondary. The staff with their specific knowledge made an intelligent choice to keep Jefferson on the field. Unfortunately, Jefferson played poorly.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:43 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
Alabama had trouble preparing for the 2 QB system LSU was running at the time. It was a very diverse offense that featured power rushing, play action deep passes to score quickly, or short-medium passes to convert 3rd downs, and option running, QB draws, QB sneaks, and QB power rushing. I thought it was brilliant running this offense - so much to prepare for.
But Miles didn't think so. He removed the power rushing, play action deep passes, short-medium passes to convert 3rd downs and stuck stricly with QB draws, QB sneaks, QB power rushing, QB bubble screens, etc.. All Alabama prepared for was to stop the run, and play the safeties in because they knew JJ was ZERO threat to pass deep.
The offense we went to towards the end of the year was not only completley ineffective, but easy to prepare for as Georgia showed. We were lucky to get momentum against Arkansas with Matheiu's punt return, and excat same for Georgia.
We sucked in the NC game because Miles didn't stick with the offense that was working so well through the season. Red flags should have gone off when fell behind to Arkansas 14-0 and when we didn't even pick up a first down against Georgia.
But Miles didn't think so. He removed the power rushing, play action deep passes, short-medium passes to convert 3rd downs and stuck stricly with QB draws, QB sneaks, QB power rushing, QB bubble screens, etc.. All Alabama prepared for was to stop the run, and play the safeties in because they knew JJ was ZERO threat to pass deep.
The offense we went to towards the end of the year was not only completley ineffective, but easy to prepare for as Georgia showed. We were lucky to get momentum against Arkansas with Matheiu's punt return, and excat same for Georgia.
We sucked in the NC game because Miles didn't stick with the offense that was working so well through the season. Red flags should have gone off when fell behind to Arkansas 14-0 and when we didn't even pick up a first down against Georgia.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:47 pm to just me
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Bama took greater risks to win the game.
yup
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Subbing Lee for Jefferson probably would have been ineffective. At worst, Jefferson is an equivalent passer, an infinitely better runner, and has more ability to turn a bad play into a good one. Bama would have had no fear of a rushing attack with Lee at QB and would have eaten up Lee's passes. Although fairly accurate, Lee simply doesn't have the ability to be a probable threat to beat Bama's secondary.
yup
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The play-calling could have been better but the Bama defense was very motivated and talented.
agreed
They simply dominated the line of scrimmage...there was no way we could run effectively...or throw the ball the depth of the line of scrimmage and move the ball. The ONLY way we move the ball was to attack the deep sides. JJ had two attempts in this area and went 1-2...both should have been completions.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:48 pm to Bobby Moore
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Please start another
post so we can ignore it
You chose to open it! I didn't mislead with the title...so bite me.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:50 pm to just me
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At worst, Jefferson is an equivalent passer, an infinitely better runner, and has more ability to turn a bad play into a good one.
Anyone can see that the offense under Lee was much more functional then under JJ. Would it have helped against Bama? Probably not.
But we'll never know. Alabama had trouble preparing for 2 QBs the first time around, this time they knew they weren't seeing 2 QBs.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:51 pm to Topwater Trout
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our OL looked overwhelmed
Great point and one reason why I think quite a few posters don't know the game. The o-line was horrible.
bama completely blew up the line....our first play was telling. A run up the middle with a crushing blow behind the line of scrimmage. hell....I thought he was going to cough it up...it set the tone.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:52 pm to steelreign
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Are you really trying to say that winning by an average of 37-10 each game is because of talent alone? What would we have won by if there was good game management? 65-10?
Yes, I'm trying to say that winning, by any margin, was by talent alone, coupled with a dominate LSU defense. LSU won games in spite of very poor, inexplicable offensive coaching decisions.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:55 pm to Chimlim
We sucked because Les Miles put his ego and the interests of one player above the interests of team. The game was lost when miles inserted JJ as the starter and gave him all the PT. Les Miles was more concerned with proving he was right and JJ was better.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 12:56 pm to beejon
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LSU won games in spite of very poor, inexplicable offensive coaching decisions.
Are you talking about the first 8 games? During the first 8 games, the offense was solid, consistent, converted 3rd downs, picked up tough yards, and hit Randle on the deep routes. It was a functional offense - that's all LSU needed. Were you excpecting an air raid offense that put up 500 yards/game?
If you are referring to the offense after November 5th, I agree.
Posted on 2/10/12 at 1:00 pm to MichiganTiger
Posted on 2/10/12 at 1:03 pm to just me
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6. Subbing Lee for Jefferson probably would have been ineffective. At worst, Jefferson is an equivalent passer, an infinitely better runner, and has more ability to turn a bad play into a good one. Bama would have had no fear of a rushing attack with Lee at QB and would have eaten up Lee's passes. Although fairly accurate, Lee simply doesn't have the ability to be a probable threat to beat Bama's secondary. The staff with their specific knowledge made an intelligent choice to keep Jefferson on the field. Unfortunately, Jefferson played poorly.
This is the best point ever made as to why JJ stayed in the game. Too bad no one gets it.
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