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re: The Orgeron Extension Talk: Why?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 3:55 pm to PoBoy1
Posted on 1/31/19 at 3:55 pm to PoBoy1
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You think Saban is using THAT as his recruiting pitch? Doubtful
No kidding.
I'm pretty sure that he's saying "LSU hasn't beat Bama since 2011."
Why don't we do something about that instead of a damn contract?
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 3:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Do you think O could promote from within and replace Aranda like Dabo replaces Cam Morris and have the same functioning Defense?
That’s sorta where the model differs.
That’s sorta where the model differs.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:11 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I can’t stand the people who keep spouting off that anyone saying something positive about O or our football program must be happy with 3 losses and mediocrity every year.
Maybe because those people don't exist and you are creating what is a known as a "strawman".
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:11 pm to Whiskeyjack Del Rio
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you are comparing South Carolina football to LSU.
I'm comparing business practices of two SEC schools. You want another example outside the SEC. Jim Harbaugh has done no better than Ed Orgeron at Michigan, and he received a raise from $5MM/year to $9MM after two 10-3 seasons. And spare me the Harbaugh had done more at previous stops than Orgeron. Michigan is a top 10 program and almost doubled his salary for two 10-3 seasons. So, like I said, it's standard business practice and you have provided nothing whatsoever to refute that. I, however, have provided numerous examples to support my position.
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but the truth of the matter is, this is *not* industry standard
prove me wrong. Lane Kiffin got a 10 year extension after one season at FAU
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does not make it some sort of rule or axiom ADs must follow.
well they do, sorry
The problem here is you don't like what the standard practice is. I've already said I don't either. But you have been completely unable to show how it hasn't become standard practice (because you can't)
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:15 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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Well look at West Virginia’s hiring of Troy coach Neal Brown this month. They hit a home run.
Has Neal Brown coached a game at WVU yet? Maybe let him win there before calling it a homerun hire.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:15 pm to SammyTiger
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Do you think O could promote from within and replace Aranda like Dabo replaces Cam Morris and have the same functioning Defense? That’s sorta where the model differs
Lol y’all will never stop with the “O sucks cuz Aranda might leave” stuff. Not playing that game.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:17 pm to lsufball19
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prove me wrong.
Tom Herman. Kirby Smart.
oh and this guy Les Miles, at his previous school before Kansas: LSU.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:18 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Lol y’all will never stop with the “O sucks cuz Aranda might leave” stuff. Not playing that game.
well he really hit it out the park with his first two OC hires.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:20 pm to Whiskeyjack Del Rio
Until Aranda leaves and we make a hire that fails, I’m not using y’alls hypothetical against O. Have fun with that though.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:20 pm to Mickey Goldmill
O fired an OC, and is replacing the PGC he hired to help replace him, and we keep giving Aranda raises.
Dabo promotes his WR and RB coaches and didn’t miss a beat.
If you’re goig to make the Dabo comparison I feel Like the fact that O isn’t great at hiring coordinators or that dabo’s offense has succeeded even after Morris left has to be a factor in that comparison
Dabo promotes his WR and RB coaches and didn’t miss a beat.
If you’re goig to make the Dabo comparison I feel Like the fact that O isn’t great at hiring coordinators or that dabo’s offense has succeeded even after Morris left has to be a factor in that comparison
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:21 pm to Whiskeyjack Del Rio
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Tom Herman. Kirby Smart.
Uh Kirby did receive a raise after his second season. And I'd be shocked if Herman isn't given one this offseason.
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oh and this guy Les Miles, at his previous school before Kansas: LSU.
Les Miles received multiple raises at LSU. Where exactly do you think you're going with this?Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:24 pm to SammyTiger
What’s your point?. You’ve admitted you like the Brady hire. Keep paying Aranda as long as you need to. Give Brady the OC if he works out and E retires. What’s the problem?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:25 pm to LSUgrad1998
So LSU can buy ou his contract at highest possible loss like CLM?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:26 pm to lsufball19
you got me on Kirby. he did get one after year 2. in which he won the East. and the conference. and a playoff game. and took bama to OT in the national title.
but I am sure it was done because of needing to provide stability to the program.
why would you be shocked if Herman is not given one? He was given a 5 year deal. He is 2 years into it. There is 3 years left on it.
Miles didnt get his first raise/extension until after 2007.
but I am sure it was done because of needing to provide stability to the program.
why would you be shocked if Herman is not given one? He was given a 5 year deal. He is 2 years into it. There is 3 years left on it.
Miles didnt get his first raise/extension until after 2007.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:27 pm to Whiskeyjack Del Rio
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I can’t stand the people who keep spouting off that anyone saying something positive about O or our football program must be happy with 3 losses and mediocrity every year.
Maybe because those people don't exist and you are creating what is a known as a "strawman
Did you just start reading the board today or are you an alter?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:30 pm to TigerD84
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When did we start rewarding for 3 and 4 loss seasons.
When our dumbfrick fanbase started accepting mediocrity as "progress"
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:34 pm to Whiskeyjack Del Rio
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you got me on Kirby. he did get one after year 2. in which he won the East. and the conference. and a playoff game. and took bama to OT in the national title.
but I am sure it was done because of needing to provide stability to the program.
wow, what a strawman. It's just a poor example, take the L
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why would you be shocked if Herman is not given one?
because, as I've stated numerous times, it's standard practice. He just won the Sugar Bowl. I think he will.
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Miles didnt get his first raise/extension until after 2007.
False, Les received a raise after his very first season. He was given a pay increase in July of 2006.
LINK
He did receive another raise in 2007
I have a question, do you just make stuff up and hope it's true before you post?
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:35 pm to PenguinPubes
When aranda leaves see how successful he is.
Syracuse wouldn't even interview him. Let that sink in.
Syracuse wouldn't even interview him. Let that sink in.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:35 pm to Mickey Goldmill
We sorta are loving a guy who is riding Les Miles DC and just taking shots at the OC.
It’s not the most sustainable or efficient model.
And again realistically I agree With your basic premise. If it works who cares.
But just like under miles, I think We’ve been held back because there are a lot of times where it hasn’t worked.
It’s not the most sustainable or efficient model.
And again realistically I agree With your basic premise. If it works who cares.
But just like under miles, I think We’ve been held back because there are a lot of times where it hasn’t worked.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:45 pm to LSUgrad1998
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He's under contract through 2021. Wait until after next season, and then discuss a possible extension
YOUR AN IDIOT LSUgrad1998!!!!
First he has earned the extension and RAISE! LSU hasn't had double digit wins since 2012, LSU went to its first New Years 6 bowl and we are about to lock in a top 5 recruiting class, and most importantly Orgeron has repaired the fence around Louisiana very well in 2019 and if we get Sospher and Lee you can say he has fixed the fence around Louisiana because right now 2020 in-state top recruits are all trending to LSU. ax
No make no mistake about it, Orgeron has earned a raise and extension which is why he is getting one! Look for it to be a two year extension thru 2023 and he will probably get a raise to somewhere around $5mil to $5.5mil per year.
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