re: the onside kick

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Who ever keeps saying why wouldn't a team just tap the ball of the tee and kill anybody who tried to get it.

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why would a receiving team try to get it?? just let it lay there and it is your ball.

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Interesting.
I'll have to tell Payton about that and he can win the game at halftime.
When would the whistle blow? What a standoff.

I imagine the ball would be blown dead when it fails to roll any more becoming obvious it won't make 10yds and would result in illegal kick.

Hey guys,
I know a lot of people are basing their opinion on the fact that the ball has to cross the "neutral zone" first and think the "neutral zone" means the 10 yards. This is incorrect. Read 2-17 (definitions). The "neutral zone" is only the "length of the ball". Offsides on a kickoff isn't called because the receiving team is in the neutral zone; it's because they are past their restraining line.

So... 6-4-1 is satisfied because the kick was beyond the neutral zone and touched the ground. This meets the first of the 3 criteria to terminate the opportunity to catch protection in 6-4-1-a and makes the contact legal. Kicking team recovery was clearly after receiving team contact so no illegal touching. The question of whether the player was blocked into the ball is a judgment call. However I think it would be difficult to argue that the touching was solely a result of being blocked and that the receiver was not making a play on the ball.

Full disclosure... I am a UNC fan but not trying to flame; just reasonably discuss.

The neutral zone is the length of the football for a scrimmage play not a free kick. It is 10 yards on a free kick.

Add one more rider to the short bus.

I'm saying they must be behind their "restraining line". This is what is 10 yards from where the ball is placed to be kicked. This is defined in 6-1.

Rule 6-1-2-g states: No Team A player may block an opponent until Team A is eligible to touch a free-kicked ball.

That is pretty clear right.

But if you read further down to Rule 6-1-3, you'll find the following:

No Team A player may touch a free-kicked ball until after:
1. It touches a Team B player;
2. It breaks the plane of and remains beyond Team B’s restraining line; or
3. It touches any player, the ground, an official or anything beyond Team B’s
restraining line.
Thereafter, all players of Team A become eligible to touch, recover or catch the
kick.

They are not eligible to touch the ball until one of those three things happen, so they therefor are not permitted to block an opponent because they are not eligible to touch a free kicked ball

We're still arguing this? I thought it was proven pretty well that the shite was illegal in like page 3.

WOW, just WOW ! Idiots .

Connor, you seem to mean well, and you can download the NCAA rulebook as a pdf HERE.

(im gonna talk to you like youre an idiot right now, but im not really talking to you, im actually talking to other LSU fans who happen to be fricking idiots. its a really proud moment in my life.)

this is as simple as I can make it. been saying this since page 2. a player on the kicking team CAN NOT hit a player on the receiving team until...

Free Kick Formation
ARTICLE 2
g. No Team A player may block an opponent until Team A is eligible to touch a free-kicked ball.

and when is he eligible to touch a free-kicked ball?



Touching and Recovery of a Free Kick
ARTICLE 3. a. No Team A player may touch a free-kicked ball until after:
1. It touches a Team B player;
2. It breaks the plane of and remains beyond Team B’s restraining line; or
3. It touches any player, the ground, an official or anything beyond Team B’s restraining line.


so they happen at the same time, OMG! the ball has to go 10 yards or hit the player before he can make contact or touch the ball! you cant just wipe out the reciever on a kick! shocking, isnt it? because you see that all the time in college football, dont you.


oh, and heres your restraining line answer:

Rule for Free Kick/Kick off:
Rule 6 Section 1
Restraining Lines
ARTICLE 1. For any free kick formation, the kicking team’s restraining line shall be the yard line through the most forward point from which the ball shall be kicked, and the receiving team’s restraining line shall be the yard line 10 yards beyond that point. Unless relocated by a penalty, the kicking team’s restraining line on a kickoff shall be its 30-yard line, and for a free kick after a safety, its 20-yard line.

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We're still arguing this? I thought it was proven pretty well that the shite was illegal in like page 3.

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Everybody is sick and tired of Miles, JJ, Crowton hatin and apologizin.
It's frickin refreshing.