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The only O comparison that makes a lick of sense: Clay Helton.

Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:32 pm
Several posters are trying to compare O to Saban in 2000. That doesn't work. The situations are completely different starting with the fact that Saban inherited a team that went 3-8 the year before while LSU went 7-4 and finished ranked in the top 15. One comparison that SHOULD give tiger fans at least some hope is Clay Helton

Both took over as interim coaches
Both were given the head job the next season
Both teams looked bad early in the year.

Helton started 1-3 last year before running the table and ending up winning the rose bowl. Not saying LSU finishes that strong especially with the tough games at the end of the year, but it's worth mentioning.

I didn't like the hire, still don't, but if O really did "learn a lesson," as he said after the game, maybe there's reason to believe we can finish strong. It all starts in Gainesville.



Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:33 pm to
What happened to Farmer Fran? We lib to pay anudder da...
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:34 pm to
What lesson is that? Don't suck? The penalties and sloppy play have been there all year. He even admitted the team had bad practices last week too.

His big thing was he is going to let his coaches coach. So now is he going to take over? He just spits out random shite but has no plan to make anything better.
Posted by YoungTigah
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:34 pm to
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It all starts in Gainesville

How about this Saturday first?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88695 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:36 pm to
Y'all need to stop overlookin Syracuse. Dino Babers is under the Briles Raid tree, he knows how to score points
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:43 pm to
Etling will not be the first pick in the draft
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:52 pm to
Exactly Darnold saved Helton and USC, we don't have Sam. We have Danny and the gap is not a stream, it's a river and that's no knock on Etling, yet Darnold is that great.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17696 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:34 pm to
Yes I'm bumping my own thread because the ridiculous O/Saban comparison persists. Situations are not the same at all, dammit.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:39 pm to
Comparing O to Saban? The freaking O propaganda machine is in overdrive. Shouldn't Ed have "learned his lesson" at Ole Miss or did he just black out those memories?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:44 pm to
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I didn't like the hire, still don't, but if O really did "learn a lesson," as he said after the game, maybe there's reason to believe we can finish strong. It all starts in Gainesville.


Didn't O state in his show last night that he is not changing the way he coaches?

Furthermore, Helton is significantly different seeing as USC is his first ever time being a head coach, whereas this is #2 full time and #4 for Ed if you count interim stints.

O shouldn't need to be getting his bearings like Helton did.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32592 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:48 pm to
Brady Hoke
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88695 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:50 pm to
Brady Hoke is the only real comparison
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Damone

Damn, beat me to it
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:51 pm to
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Didn't O state in his show last night that he is not changing the way he coaches?


That's be a reasonable take if he'd ever won anything before.
Posted by c on z
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:55 pm to
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Brady Hoke

Hoke though had at least one winning season at Ball St. and San Diego St.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:56 pm to
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How about this Saturday first?



Florida is the next legit SEC test. Syracuse and Troy are expected to be lesser competition, although either could rise up and surprise LSU. A clean, dominant performance by LSU against them would be nice and positive, but a solid win against Florida would go much further in showing that O really does get it. However, a loss to either Syracuse or Troy would be far worse than a loss to Florida. Scoreboard and the Rant would probably shut down.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:56 pm to
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Brady Hoke is the only real comparison




rinse and repeat
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32592 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:56 pm to
Yeah, Hoke had a better resume beforehand so it's not exact. But it is quite close.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 4:57 pm to
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Several posters are trying to compare O to Saban in 2000




Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26136 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:23 pm to
Etling is the problem, not the solution. He'll NEVER rise above the average and the typical.

We have Myles Brennan who's potentially the second coming of LSU football.
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