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re: "The NCAA is working in conjunction with the FBI on the investigations..."
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:05 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:05 pm to Irish LSU Fan
do you really think the FBI gives a shite aboy the NCAA, what a joke
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Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:08 pm to ellessuuuu
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Also, since that article in December, the NCAA filed a motion asking the court to give the NCAA access to inadmissible evidence. Why would the NCAA do this if they thought the FBI was going to hand over everything?
I didn’t think they would hand over everything but I think it is likely they will hand over some things once they vet what they can legally hand over. I suspect the filing is part of that, perhaps even suggested by the FBI as a possible vehicle to getting that info. Purely guessing in this, though. I have no real idea how this will go down, which is really frustrating.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:09 pm to Irish LSU Fan
You better believe Vanderbilt and Murray State are nervous as frick
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:15 pm to mdomingue
If the FBI is agreeing to hand over docs, why involve the court?
Some things may be turned over, but I don't believe wiretap recordings of third parties not indicted will be subject to product under FOIA.
Some things may be turned over, but I don't believe wiretap recordings of third parties not indicted will be subject to product under FOIA.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:43 pm to ellessuuuu
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If the FBI is agreeing to hand over docs, why involve the court?
I’m assuming only in order to follow some protocol or guidelines. Privacy concerns are the reason I expect there will be a lag before anything is turned over. I would also expect censored or redacted transcripts, rather than any actual audio recordings. Which gives me hope regarding the ultimate outcome.
All in all, I think it is possible that this could end with a whimper, rather than a bang. And I’m not entirely certain the NCAA wouldn’t prefer that since there is no way they don’t come off as blind to certain “blue blood” schools or having to take down those same blue bloods.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:45 pm to lovemytigers1
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do you really think the FBI gives a shite aboy the NCAA, what a joke
They are working together. They have been for quite some time.
LINK
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:47 pm to Irish LSU Fan
You’re a clown dude. Stop posting
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:48 pm to ellessuuuu
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Some things may be turned over, but I don't believe wiretap recordings of third parties not indicted will be subject to product under FOIA.
The FBI will probably turn over transcripts to the NCAA. They ar and have been working together for quite some time.
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There are new NCAA rule changes that allow the NCAA to use "third party" investigation info for enforcement purposes.
"Use of outside facts
People charged with investigating and resolving NCAA cases can accept information established by another administrative body, including a court of law, government agency, accrediting body or a commission authorized by a school. This will save time and resources previously used to confirm information already adjudicated by another group.
This new rule is effective immediately."
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:51 pm to Irish LSU Fan
If WW comes out of the investigation clean, i think LSU fans should sue Yahoo, Forde, Vitale, Joe Alleva, F. King, and all others who pushed this story.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:53 pm to ellessuuuu
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The fact that the NCAA had to file a motion with the court, tends to show that the FBI is not intending to handover its entire evidence file. How do you reconcile these two things?
The FBI probably wants to have these documents handed over via legal avenues. This would help to protect the FBI and the NCAA from a lawsuit.
The fact is that the NCAA and the FBI are and have been working together for quite some time. It is likely they have already shared "some" information (since the FBI has made requests of the NCAA during the trial).
Posted on 3/31/19 at 4:56 pm to Jumbo_Gumbo
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If WW comes out of the investigation clean, i think LSU fans should sue Yahoo, Forde, Vitale, Joe Alleva, F. King, and all others who pushed this story.
On what grounds could WW sue JA or FKing. They have not stated that WW has violated any NCAA rules.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:10 pm to mdomingue
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Just today we have had multiple poster saying the FBI would never turn over files to the NCAA. So apparently tRant is actually a German territory.
This is why I posted this article. Emmert would not say this to the media unless it was true.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:11 pm to Irish LSU Fan
How many young American lives would have been saved if all these FBI man hours had been targeted at cartel heroin traffickers. My best guess is hundreds of young lives (maybe thousands).
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:13 pm to Philippines4LSU
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Irish wants Wade to be guilty of something SOOOOOOOO bad
Nope. You have never read anything that suggests that. What I HAVE said is that I am hopeful WW is innocent of these allegations.
Again, if someone cannot argue with facts, they usually resort to personal attacks.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:16 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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Again, if someone cannot argue with facts, they usually resort to personal attacks.
Like you've been doing to coach Will Wade...
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:18 pm to Philippines4LSU
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Like you've been doing to coach Will Wade...
Not a single instance.....
So, you just like making stuff up.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:33 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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The FBI will probably turn over transcripts to the NCAA. They ar and have been working together for quite some time.
LINK /
You didn’t understand what he said. Yes, the ncaa can use third party investigatory material now. What he was saying was the fbi cannot release recordings of third parties to the ncaa, I.e. a non consenting recording of Will Wade obtained via a wiretap, unless said recording part of the court record
The ncaa is never going to have full unabridged access to the FBI’s files whether they want them or not
It’s pretty apparent you seem to be under the impression that once the trial is over the ncaa will get whatever they want from the FBI. They won’t, sorry
Give it a rest bud. You’ve been citing months old material thinking it’s news. All of this has already been discussed ad naseum. Nothing you’re saying is shedding any sort of new light or perspective on the situation.
This post was edited on 3/31/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:33 pm to Irish LSU Fan
You're not fooling anyone. Just give it up.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:37 pm to GeorgeWest
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I am not worried about the FBI "dumping" tapes to the NCAA. If that happens, its gonna be several blue bloods that are gonna be implicated
I can see some blue blood schools getting swept under the rug like North Carolina last year. Meanwhile they’ll hammer LSU to try to look tough on recruiting violations.
At this point the only thing that matters is keeping wade. Look at the final teams. All have great coaches with baggage. Outside of that I don’t care if they burn the whole thing down.
Posted on 3/31/19 at 5:43 pm to lsufball19
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What he was saying was the fbi cannot release recordings of third parties to the ncaa, I.e. a non consenting recording of Will Wade obtained via a wiretap, unless said recording part of the court record
The FBI can cooperate with any entity they choose. If the FBI legally wiretaps someone as part of an investigation, all they have to do is find a judge to agree to share this info with the NCAA. BTW, the FBI is now considering issues like the WW conversation to be evidence of bribery. In fact, if the FBI decides to open this type of investigation into WW, look out. Then the FBI could share their "findings" with the NCAA and according to the new NCAA compliance rules, that takes the place of an NCAA investigation.
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