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re: The Myth of LSU-Oregon 2011. Lee was terrible.

Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:01 pm to
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Uh, no they didn't, and that's easily proven by looking at the stats. You just made that up and tried to present it as a fact when the exact opposite is true.

The LSU offense had the most yards of the year against Western Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Production increased.


Can you answer my defensive rankings question?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62351 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:02 pm to
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Fans who think any staff which goes 13-0, 9-0 in the SEC and #1 ranked in the BCS need "justification" are themselves in need of sports mental health treatment. imo


So you're ok with the overall performance on 1/9?
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:05 pm to
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The Myth of LSU-Oregon 2011. Lee was terrible.




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All I care about is winning and not what the team looks like in doing so.


oh. ok.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:15 pm to
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By the 2nd quarter 'the guy' was a shell of his former self and basically a walking zombie out there.


Not any more than the OL was. Hurst was by far the biggest no show of the night. Set us in 1&15 twice with false start penalties in addition to getting blown off the ball with all the other linemen literally every play.

You think Lee would have fared any better out of 1&15 on that D with that kind of protection??


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He literally did not do one thing right from the opening play where he fumbled the snap


Well it was the third play, actually, but he had run for a first down and was 3/3 for 21 yards before a screen pass to Blue on 3rd down lost 3 at the end of the first quarter which dropped him to 4/4 for 18 yards.

The first LSU drive of the 2nd quarter he completed 2 passes and on 3rd and 2 Spencer Ware let a screen pass go straight between his hands when he had room to get the 1st.

But I've actually rewatched the game unlike most people on here, so it doesn't surprise me that people say things about the game that just aren't so.


I'm not saying JJ was playing great. But the Alabama D was swarming unlike anything I'd ever seen, the D couldn't get off the field giving up 4, 5.5, and 6.5 minute sustained drives keeping our O on the sidelines, so the frustration wasn't simply from our QB play.

The game was 6-0 right before halftime until the D gave up a 52 yard drive in under 2 minutes and Bama got another FG on the last play of the 1st half to go up 9-0.

Not bashing the D, but if they get a stop there it's 6-0 at halftime and maybe Miles is more willing to give Lee a chance in the second half.

But the D gives up a 50 yd FG drive out of half and now it's 12-0. We're still technically in the game, but a turnover would pretty much end the game. Lee is not your man in that scenario.

On our first drive of the second half JJ completes a 19 yard pass to OBJ, but then Hurst absolutely lets Upshaw run clean by him and JJ gets sacked and we end up in 3rd and long so we punt again.

We don't get the ball back until 7:48 in the 3rd and that's the pitch INT.

At that point, the defense is just annihilating us, and I think throwing Lee in at that point just wouldn't have been fair to him.

It would have saved all the second guessing from Miles haters, but Lee looked like he had shite his pants on the sidelines by that point.

So he stuck with JJ hoping to keep it close so the D or ST could make big play.

Herbstreit and Musberger took the Bama dick out of their mouths long enough to say the exact same thing at halftime. There was no reason to look to Lee because JJ was "a better athlete that gave us more options to attack the vaunted Bama D".


Not that they're always right obviously, but anyone pretending that it was idiocy or Miles' JJ love that kept Lee on the bench just isn't being objective or hasn't rewatched the game.

This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 9:58 am
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:21 pm to
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The Myth of LSU-Oregon 2011. Lee was terrible.



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This is not a "bash Lee" thread



Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:59 pm to
You must really be bored to spend this much time posting about this topic.

It's old, nobody cares anymore.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:04 pm to
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You must really be bored to spend this much time posting about this topic.


fricking dying for FB season for sure.

And I've posted all this stuff dozens of times. It doesn't take any time anymore.



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It's old, nobody cares anymore.


I didn't start the thread, and I'm not replying to myself
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:27 pm to
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We haven't had a potent offense since 2008.
Another fallacy.

2008- 5.4ypp, 4785yds
2011- 5.7ypp, 4971yds
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:31 pm to
Now that I think about it he did suck that game. We have been in the national picture for 10 years even with terrible QB's amazing.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:32 pm to
This thread is getting me so pumped for the Mett vs Jennings threads
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:40 pm to
You would think that .

Casty
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:42 pm to
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quote:


We haven't had a potent offense since 2008.


Another fallacy.

2008- 5.4ypp, 4785yds
2011- 5.7ypp, 4971yds


Sometimes the stupidity of this board actually takes me breath away.

You do recognize that we played one more game in 2011 than we did in 2008 right? If so, why the hell are you posting total yards?

Let's look at the relevant statistic. In 2008, we ranked 55th in the the nation in total offense, which was at least in the top half of the country. In 2011, we ranked 86th in total offense.

I was actually being generous when I said we haven't had a potent offense since 2008. It may be more appropriate to say that we haven't had a potent offense since 2007 (the last time we ranked in the top 40 offensively (26th)).
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:43 pm to
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You must really be bored to spend this much time posting about this topic.

Translation:
All these facts are making me very uncomfortable.

Posted by NameWithheld
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
2092 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:46 pm to
I think the simple answer was that the Defense ended up being the big motivator for LSU. Lee definitely was shaky in the beginning. People in my section were yelling for Les to "Put the sex offender (Mett) in!!!)
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:47 pm to
You'll have to get a name change to stay in the argument

Or you could just keep arguing for Jarrett Lee
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6100 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:47 pm to
Good Lord, 8 pages about JL. Either get a girlfriend, or a job, or a hobby.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:48 pm to
I see you conveniently left out part about nobody giving a shite anymore.

Good job ole boy.
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 4:01 pm
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:50 pm to
Prob should have done it last year since he wasn't on the team then either.

Oh we'll, suppose ill stay where I'm at.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9066 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:57 pm to
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The myth is that Lee was great for us and that LSU was dominant in that game. We dominated the scoreboard and the 3rd quarter, but it was for the reasons mentioned above.


Did you see the SECCG? Offensively we were not even mediocre, we were terrible, but it was defense and special teams in the third quarter that made the game look like a blow out.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 7/29/13 at 5:19 pm to
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Sometimes the stupidity of this board actually takes me breath away.
Nice grandstanding.
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You do recognize that we played one more game in 2011 than we did in 2008 right? If so, why the hell are you posting total yards? Let's look at the relevant statistic
OK, I reposted the stats that are irrelevant of number of games played.
2008- 5.4ypp
2011- 5.7ypp

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