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re: The Math is simple for Les Miles's last 2 seasons....
Posted on 11/24/12 at 7:34 pm to Penrod
Posted on 11/24/12 at 7:34 pm to Penrod
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Example: at the end of the third quarter Miles had to decide if JJ, who had a shitty 3 quarters, or Lee, who was wide-eyed with fear, would give him the best chance.
He was wide-eyed with fear? Really? And you know that becauuuuuuuse???
I was there and while it was happening I was wondering why they wouldn't put the other QB in to see if they could do something. The shot-put int. in the 2nd half would have been a good place to try the other QB. It's not like he didn't have success throughout the year. The guy was mentally tough to survive what he had to go through at LSU (and he stuck it out).
Anyway, I don't know why I'm talking about this other than someone bringing it up...
This post was edited on 11/24/12 at 7:36 pm
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Posted on 11/24/12 at 7:52 pm to Powerman
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Not sure Lee would have won us the game but valid points on the Bama game this year
Someone seemed more certain Jordan Jefferson would
Posted on 11/24/12 at 7:59 pm to P bean
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We got some shitty arse fans around here. Damn shame.
Some stupid vulgarians as well.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:02 pm to White Tiger
Great thread from an intelligent poster. Miles sucks! The bottom line is we are playing in the goddam chicken sandwich bowl game. So all you sheep miles lovers choke on that. To the intelligent fans who knows Miles is am epic fail as the CEO of a program here's to you!
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:03 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Anyway, I don't know why I'm talking about this other than someone bringing it up...
It is talked about because it is a festering putrescent wound that will never heal unless CLM wins a championship. Period. End of story. That debacle was 100% his doing, but he did not deserve having to be put in that position to begin with. He got 100% screwed, but that does not excuse the absolute failure that he rolled out and his stubborn insistence on making no change at QB.
I hope I live to hear the real story about Jefferson and CLM because I do believe that there is much more than we know. Another loss to 'Bama next year and he will think that criticism now is nothing.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:31 pm to White Tiger
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I hope I live to hear the real story about Jefferson and CLM because I do believe that there is much more than we know.
I don't think there is anything to it other than that is was just a decision he made and stuck with.
We're in the age of instant media where every person wants to break some sort of news...especially insiders. It would have been out my now, not 30 years from now. There is no "deep throat" involved here.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:48 pm to RummelTiger
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Are you actually going to try to defend Lee's performance in the first Bama game?
In four year's Lee had 1 TD and 7 picks vs Bama, including 2 picks in 2011. 1 of which was returned in side the 5 but fortunately moved back due to a block in the back. But, yeah, if only he had played, we would have won.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:50 pm to Lacour
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so let's stick with something that's not working instead of trying to win a freaking nc. miles at his best
Exactly.
He was playing to not get blown out rather than trying to win.
It's really sad to think so of you are stupid enough to actually think this.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:54 pm to TigerGman
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No Jarrett Lee in the National Championship game = no Ring last year.
This post lost all the little credibility it originally had with this sentence.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
If Les had any frickin' sense he would have given the best QB on the roster a chance to compete for the starting job as soon as he stepped on campus.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:00 pm to TigerGman
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4th and 12, and a 54 yard field goal against the wind, 4th and 1 Wildcat, and a filed onside kick= no Ring again this year.
You forgot playing for a FG by calling a running play on 3rd down on LSU's last drive when Mett was hot and the Tigers had moved the ball down the field through the air. If LSU gets a first down there the game is won.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:10 pm to RummelTiger
Lee had 2 bad passes, prior to that he was the highest rated QB in the SEC.
Bench the leading efficiency rated qb in conference for the worst QB in LSU history. Genius.
Bench the leading efficiency rated qb in conference for the worst QB in LSU history. Genius.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
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In four year's Lee had 1 TD and 7 picks vs Bama, including 2 picks in 2011. 1 of which was returned in side the 5 but fortunately moved back due to a block in the back. But, yeah, if only he had played, we would have won.
I think people wanted to see what might have happened - especially Jarrett Lee - he probably deserved that much...the team too...even if nothing different happened.
In 1986, LSU beat #1 seed Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament after losing to them THREE times that year. $hit happens when the opportunity presents itself to people with competitive spirit.
And hey, JL did help to ice the game in 2010 in Tiger Stadium at the end with that 40+ yard completion. I'm just saying...anything is possible.
We did have bigger issues than just QB that day though. Still, the calls and the QB play were some of the main issues.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:15 pm to White Tiger
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That debacle was 100% his doing,
Really, it had nothing to do with Nick Saban and Alabama? I love how every game LSU plays is played in a vacuum somehow. Nothing the other team, their coaches or players do matters. In fact, nothing our players do affects the games either. It's only Les Miles. He's the only person who impacts every game LSU plays in according to some of the people on this board.
Did the fact that Alabama had an all time great d, the first in 26 years to lead CFB in Total yds, rush yds, pass yds and points have an impact? Nope, it as Miles decision not to play a QB that had 1 TD and 7 picks in 4 years vs Bama cause of course how he played in 4 previous games does not mean anything. This time he was going to be Dan Marino.
There were 8 guys in Crimson on 1/9 that night that were drafted in the 2012 NFL draft vs only 5 guys from LSU. Another 9-10 Bama players projected to be drafted in 2013 vs 8-9 for LSU, but that doesn't have an impact either I'm sure. Only Miles decision to stick with Jefferson and not shake things up by playing Sheppard or Mettenberger.
Nothing any players for LSU or the other team or coaches decisions by the other staff matter. Only what Les Miles does, that's all the affects the outcome of any game LSU plays.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:37 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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I think people wanted to see what might have happened
Yes, it's the broken window fallacy in reverse. We don't know what would have happened, so we assume it would have been better.
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In 1986, LSU beat #1 seed Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament after losing to them THREE times that year
Yeah, well that's and entirely different sport. Those 4 games were decided by 2, 9,3 and 2 points. I think the first loss was when half of LSU's roster was out with the chicken pox.
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Still, the calls and the QB play were some of the main issues
What calls should have been made? Think the defense had any impact on the calls? Bitching about calls is mostly 20/20 hind sight, although we have no idea what was actually called a lot of times. Sometimes the QB checks down or takes off running and that was not the call.
We got our arse kicked. It was frustrating and easy to think if only they did, x, y or z it would have been different. But if they had and it didn't work, people would be second guessing that. I mean if they put in Lee and he throws a pick people would be saying, why did you put in Lee when he's been so bad vs Bama. If they gave a carry to Shep ar who ever and if didn't work people would be saying why are they wasting carries on him? At the end of the day, you, me and everyone on this board just watch. No one has as much at stake as Les Miles. To think he didn't do what he thought was best to try and win. It's easy to second guess, but I'm sure no one has done more second guessing that Les. We got beat, by what was at worst an equally talented team. Sucks, but not a sign that we have a bad coach. Remember, Steve Spurrier only won 1 NC and he also got his arse kicked in a NC game. It happens. Time to move on.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:07 pm to RummelTiger
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Look, I was all for putting ANYONE else in, but it's not like Lee was going to come in and throw for 4 TD's against that D.
The fact is no one will ever know. Miles did not even give Lee or us a chance to win.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:do you think miles tried everything in his power to win the game? put lee in see what he can do. so what if throws a pic 6, try to win the game instead of wating for the opponent to screw up.like he did with a&m, south carolina, & florida
It's really sad to think so of you are stupid enough to actually think this.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:23 pm to TigerGman
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TigerGman
Kill yourself.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:27 pm to the crue
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:roflmao: explain how he is the best coach lsu ever had
Well, he has the highest winning percentage of any coach in LSU history.
Not saying I think he's the best we've had, but that argument can certainly be made.
This post was edited on 11/24/12 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:33 pm to the crue
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do you think miles tried everything in his power to win the game?
Yes, I think he did what he thought would win the game. If you think he didn't you are just a bitter fool. He has way more to gain and lose than you or I.
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put lee in see what he can do. so what if throws a pic 6, try to win the game instead of wating for the opponent to screw up.like he did with a&m, south carolina, & florida
The interesting thing about hindsight is its always 20/20. If he does something screwy that doesn't work, like say a fake FG or an onside kick, then people like you are screaming about how his stupid calls lost the game.
If you think he didn't try to win the biggest game of HIS life, you are just a bitter delusional fan.
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