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The Man in the High Hat
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:39 pm
Saw the trailer for the Les Miles reality show on ESPN. Wacky entertainment.
No doubt, ole Les is a good guy who parlayed Saban's cubbard into a lot of success with more than a few head-scratching incidents.
But if just a few things had gone differently, an alternate history would have unfolded for The Man in the High Hat.
1. Katrina (2005) . Even with Katrina, LSU was 11-1, losing to UGA after several rescheduled games. Without it, it's certain that LSU finishes 12-0 in the regular season, beating UT. Despite the blowout in the SECCG, LSU had the better team, and the most likely outcome is that LSU beats UGA and winds up losing to USC in The Rose Bowl, sparing the nation of all of the nauseating Mack Brown praise.
2. Ryan Perriloux (2008). This one's different than Katrina. Getting rid of Perriloux was either to MIles' credit or part of his demise. Maybe another coach could have salvaged it. LSU, with a serviceable QB in 2008 and 2009 was a radically different football team.
While you can't say that LSU would have won blowout losses to UF and UGA in 2008, they certainly would have beaten No. 1 Alabama, and probably a rematch with UF in the championship game.
In 2009, though LSU lost 4 close games to top 10 opponents, I do believe LSU runs the table with a seasoned QB at the helm in that year.
At the least, with Perriloux, LSU would have lost far fewer games. More importantly though, MIles wouldn't have been sucked into a vortex of conservative playcalling that would haunt him for years following the nightmarish experience with Andrew Hatch, and freshmen Jarret Lee and Jordan Jefferson.
3. Apocalypse in Ames (2011) . But not for Oklahoma State blowing a 24-7 lead in the 3rd quarter, eventually losing 37-31 in OT, and the BCS ranking controversy that followed, LSU would have won the 2011 BCS. That team would also have been considered one of, if not, the most accomplished team in CFB history, and that may have made a significant difference in a number of recruiting battles with UA, including essential ones like Cam Robinson.
4. Weed Badger (2012) If one of the most instinctive defenders in the history of the game plays on an LSU team loaded with NFL talent (especially on offense), TJ Yeldon is tackled for a loss and LSU repeats in 2012.
No doubt, ole Les is a good guy who parlayed Saban's cubbard into a lot of success with more than a few head-scratching incidents.
But if just a few things had gone differently, an alternate history would have unfolded for The Man in the High Hat.
1. Katrina (2005) . Even with Katrina, LSU was 11-1, losing to UGA after several rescheduled games. Without it, it's certain that LSU finishes 12-0 in the regular season, beating UT. Despite the blowout in the SECCG, LSU had the better team, and the most likely outcome is that LSU beats UGA and winds up losing to USC in The Rose Bowl, sparing the nation of all of the nauseating Mack Brown praise.
2. Ryan Perriloux (2008). This one's different than Katrina. Getting rid of Perriloux was either to MIles' credit or part of his demise. Maybe another coach could have salvaged it. LSU, with a serviceable QB in 2008 and 2009 was a radically different football team.
While you can't say that LSU would have won blowout losses to UF and UGA in 2008, they certainly would have beaten No. 1 Alabama, and probably a rematch with UF in the championship game.
In 2009, though LSU lost 4 close games to top 10 opponents, I do believe LSU runs the table with a seasoned QB at the helm in that year.
At the least, with Perriloux, LSU would have lost far fewer games. More importantly though, MIles wouldn't have been sucked into a vortex of conservative playcalling that would haunt him for years following the nightmarish experience with Andrew Hatch, and freshmen Jarret Lee and Jordan Jefferson.
3. Apocalypse in Ames (2011) . But not for Oklahoma State blowing a 24-7 lead in the 3rd quarter, eventually losing 37-31 in OT, and the BCS ranking controversy that followed, LSU would have won the 2011 BCS. That team would also have been considered one of, if not, the most accomplished team in CFB history, and that may have made a significant difference in a number of recruiting battles with UA, including essential ones like Cam Robinson.
4. Weed Badger (2012) If one of the most instinctive defenders in the history of the game plays on an LSU team loaded with NFL talent (especially on offense), TJ Yeldon is tackled for a loss and LSU repeats in 2012.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 2:55 pm
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:45 pm to crescentcity
When will it air?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:50 pm to crescentcity
quote:
LSU beats the Bulldogs and winds up losing to USC in The Rose Bowl
I’m pretty sure Texas and SC were 1 and 2 that entire season. Plus they had media darlings in VY/Bush/Leinart. Not sure we would have made it to the Rose Bowl that year.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:52 pm to crescentcity
How could you leave off the stupidity of the offensive play calling vs Aubie 2006 (along with the atrocious officiating)???
There was real potential for back-to-back championships in 2006 & 2007.
There was real potential for back-to-back championships in 2006 & 2007.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:57 pm to crescentcity
Can we stop with the false narrative that Miles "parlayed Saban's cupboard" into his success.
Miles was the coach at LSU for 12 years. During that time he had 114 wins.
It was time at the end for Les to leave. But its not fair to diminish all his accomplishments by giving credit to Saban when Miles had multiple double digit win seasons long after Saban left.
Miles was the coach at LSU for 12 years. During that time he had 114 wins.
It was time at the end for Les to leave. But its not fair to diminish all his accomplishments by giving credit to Saban when Miles had multiple double digit win seasons long after Saban left.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:57 pm to alumni95
quote:
How could you leave off the stupidity of the offensive play calling vs Aubie 2006 (along with the atrocious officiating)???
You're right. I really hated Jimbo Fisher for a long time after that game and there were many questionable calls in that game.
Didn't want go too far into bad calls though. But yeah, just a few things here and there, some out of your control, that would result in multiple more championships.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 3:01 pm to alumni95
quote:
How could you leave off the stupidity of the offensive play calling vs Aubie 2006 (along with the atrocious officiating)???
You're right. I really hated Jimbo Fisher for a long time after that game and there were many questionable calls in that game.
Didn't want go too far into bad calls though. But yeah, just a few things here and there, some out of your control, that would result in multiple more championships.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 3:23 pm to paper tiger
quote:
Can we stop with the false narrative that Miles "parlayed Saban's cupboard" into his success.
Miles does deserve more credit.
What I'm saying here is that but for Ames and Ryan P Miles is at least 6-4 against the greatest CFB coach in history, with several more NCs (Or we may not even think of Saban as the greatest coach in history but for those things).
Posted on 8/11/19 at 3:23 pm to paper tiger
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:00 pm to crescentcity
LSU was good in 05, but so was uga. They had our number in that game. Have to just rip your cap and move forward.
The okie state effect in 2011 most definitely took away a second title for miles.
Also les never wanted to kick TM7 and Perriloux off the team. He had to. Matthieu couldn’t stop smoking weed and miles was left no choice after strike 10 or something.
Perriloux was immature. He was given so many chances to take ownership but he continued to get in trouble off the field for one thing or another and was late to meeting and practices. Not things you let your team leader get away with. Les didn’t want to boot him but he had to
The okie state effect in 2011 most definitely took away a second title for miles.
Also les never wanted to kick TM7 and Perriloux off the team. He had to. Matthieu couldn’t stop smoking weed and miles was left no choice after strike 10 or something.
Perriloux was immature. He was given so many chances to take ownership but he continued to get in trouble off the field for one thing or another and was late to meeting and practices. Not things you let your team leader get away with. Les didn’t want to boot him but he had to
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:20 pm to paper tiger
quote:Correct. Losing to #9 Wisconsin in Green Bay and at #24 Auburn are inexcusable. Things had gotten monotonous, so it was time to move on from Miles and do new things like lose to a Sun Belt team.
It was time at the end for Les to leave.
Sorry, but anybody who ever wanted Miles gone is a bozo for the rest of his life.
If Miles hadn't gotten fired, last year's A&M game wouldn't have gone into overtime, and it would have ended with the Tigers carrying Les off the field to celebrate his 138th win at LSU. If you ever wanted Miles fired for any reason ever, you deserve the A&M loss last year.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:27 pm to xiv
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Losing to #9 Wisconsin in Green Bay
Wisconsin was unkraned... are you retarded? It was absolutely time for Miles to go. You could see a downfall coming, along with the stubbornness offensively. Should have been fired in 2015, but we gave him another chance and a team that had real National Title aspirations in 2016 started the year off 2-2. It was time. You sound like the bozo, don’t you hate O and Will Wade?
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:30 pm to xiv
Hi, Mrs. Miles.
It was time for your husband to leave. He was good for LSU and the fan base wishes him luck in Kansas
It was time for your husband to leave. He was good for LSU and the fan base wishes him luck in Kansas
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:30 pm to xiv
You could also play this game with a handful of Wins that could have been losses and he never lasts 12 years. Reverse the ending of Auburn in ‘07 or Florida in ‘07 and we lose 3 regular season games that year and he never wins a championship. Having just one of those games as a loss in 2007 eliminates his championship. There’s a good chance, with no title in 2007 that Miles is canned after the 2008 season, but assume he gets more time, he’s probably fired after the Ole Miss clock it game in 2009. Assume that he escaped that one too.
Then flip Dooley’s 13 men on the field mistake and Miles is definitely fired after the Tennessee game in 2010.
Just by reversing two wins to losses (Auburn ‘07 and Tenn ‘10) and Miles is fired at least six years earlier. Goes both ways.
Then flip Dooley’s 13 men on the field mistake and Miles is definitely fired after the Tennessee game in 2010.
Just by reversing two wins to losses (Auburn ‘07 and Tenn ‘10) and Miles is fired at least six years earlier. Goes both ways.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:30 pm to TheTexasTiger7
quote:They were the 9th best team in 2016. If you want to base these things on preseason rankings, then firing Miles is even more stupid.
Wisconsin was unkraned
quote:No, I like them both. I'm sure there will come a time when idiots want each of them fired, and I will mock them for it, too.
don’t you hate O and Will Wade?
But there simply is no justifying the firing of Miles. YoU pEoPlE mUsT LuV aLlEvA
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:31 pm to xiv
there is a lot of justification 
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:32 pm to xiv
quote:
No, I like them both. I'm sure there will come a time when idiots want each of them fired, and I will mock them for it, too. But there simply is no justifying the firing of Miles. YoU pEoPlE mUsT LuV aLlEvA
You are making no sense whatsoever.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:35 pm to GEAUX5
There was zero. Firing Les MIles was the dumbest instance of firing a coach in the history of college sports.
I didn't think LSU would ever out-do the Brady firing, but here we are.
The only thing that can justify a without-cause firing is better results going forward. The only thing LSU football has accomplished that Les couldn't pull off is a loss to a Sun Belt team.
I didn't think LSU would ever out-do the Brady firing, but here we are.
The only thing that can justify a without-cause firing is better results going forward. The only thing LSU football has accomplished that Les couldn't pull off is a loss to a Sun Belt team.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:40 pm to xiv
LSU was literally on the decline with Miles
He refused to change. It’s what cost him. If he would’ve changed his offense here, he most likely would still be the head coach
He refused to change. It’s what cost him. If he would’ve changed his offense here, he most likely would still be the head coach
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:41 pm to GEAUX5
quote:
LSU was literally on the decline with Miles
2014: 5 losses
2015: 3 losses
2016: 2 losses
Learn to math.
quote:This is a lie that tens of thousands of LSU fans tell themselves even to this day. We all know the truth. Saban cucked you, and you took it out on Miles, and there are enough of you that it was affecting LSU's bottom line.
He refused to change. It’s what cost him. If he would’ve changed his offense here, he most likely would still be the head coach
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 8:44 pm
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