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re: The job O has done this season is nothing short of outstanding

Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:31 pm to
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We’re in the hunt for a NC

No we're not.

We might be on Sunday, but today, we're a 14 point underdog to the number 1 team in the country. If we lose on Saturday, we're probably just in the hunt for a Sugar Bowl berth.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48005 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:31 pm to
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lot of people here thought we’d have to squeak by aTm to be bowl eligible



Idiots.

The team is still full of talent.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:32 pm to
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No we're not.

We might be on Sunday, but today, we're a 14 point underdog to the number 1 team in the country. If we lose on Saturday, we're probably just in the hunt for a Sugar Bowl berth.



Goalposts : not moved [moved]
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:33 pm to
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We’re in the hunt for a NC


If that’s not outstanding, I don’t know what is

I guess 2015 was an outstanding season too
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:34 pm to
So you’ve conceded the rest of the season? Nice
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:36 pm to
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So you’ve conceded the rest of the season? Nice


How on earth is that what you got out of my post?

My point is that we were in this exact position 3 years ago and our head coach was nearly (should have been) fired at the end of the season. Being in the hunt in late October/early November doesn't an outstanding season make.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48005 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Nobody has lowered any bars.

Calling his hire a success when has won frick all is lowering the bar.

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You bring up Les would you really rather he be the coach right now?


We would still have a bad offense and would be winning with defense.
Wouldnt be much difference.
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The other is the beginning of what we all hope, except for a clueless group, is a great career capped by SEC titles and national championships.

Be careful of what you label as a decline. Its far more plausible that O keeps losing 3-4 games a year than consistently losing only 1-2.

Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Its far more plausible that O keeps losing 3-4 games a year than consistently losing only 1-2.



Based on?


You realize you could say this about any coach that plays the schedules that LSU plays
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:40 pm to
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y point is that we were in this exact position 3 years ago and our head coach was nearly (should have been) fired at the end of the season. Being in the hunt in late October/early November doesn't an outstanding season make.



My point is someone who predicted that this team would be where it is right now would have been laughed off of the rant. We have a very good chance of going 10-2 at worst, at best 11-1 and playing for the whole shebang
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33871 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Because you and others have claimed all along that coach O was worthless and to prove your point you brought up his record at ole miss and also attacked his character


I have made every effort to confine my criticisms of Orgeron to his football career. I may have crossed the line a time or two but I doubt you can find evidence of me consistently launching personal attacks at him. So please don't continue to say that I'm part of that group.

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You and others also shouted down anyone and everyone that said anything at all positive about the man and his staff


This isn't true.

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So when the man is successful early you seem surprised that his early success is thrown up in your face


But it's nothing the guy before him that got fired wasn't doing. How great is it really?

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You bring up Les would you really rather he be the coach right now?


People are over the moon emotionally about how amazing the job O's done. But when you look at things objectively, it's nothing that Miles hadn't accomplished or exceeded in multiple seasons. I'm just questioning the obvious double standard.

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One was at the end of a great career tarnished by a wholly preventable decline


The claims of the decline have been debunked. Get some new material.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Calling his hire a success when has won frick all is lowering the bar


I'm pretty sure that I said that he's had early success. If you can't see that this is the case or have reading issues I don't know what to say.


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We would still have a bad offense and would be winning with defense.
Wouldnt be much difference


Wants Les back. There goes your credibility.


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Be careful of what you label as a decline


What would you call the years after 2012?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Goalposts : not moved [moved]


How the hell is my statement moving goalposts?

Orgeron has done a hell of a job, but as it stands today, I don't consider us in the hunt for a national championship. Not with a huge game against unbeatable Alabama standing in the way.

Alabama can lose on Saturday and still get into the playoffs. We cannot.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17387 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:44 pm to
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So when the man is successful early you seem surprised that his early success is thrown up in your face.

I find it interesting you want to throw up Orgeron's success through 8 games this season, but in the thread about Burrow, you want everyone to reserve judgement until he has a larger body of work.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:46 pm to
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One was at the end of a great career tarnished by a wholly preventable decline


The claims of the decline have been debunked. Get some new material


Why do you think that Les got fired? Because he was doing a great job? He got fired for not handling his business as coach and the team suffered because of it. There's more to running a football team than recruiting.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:47 pm to
Sure we can. We would need about 5 losses.


Oklahoma
Ohio state
Michigan
Georgia
Florida

That should do it. Of Course we would need to be very very competitive Saturday.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36534 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:48 pm to
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I don't consider us in the hunt for a national championship.



You don’t huh? Good thing you aren’t on the committee.


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unbeatable Alabama


So you’ve conceded. Nice


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Alabama can lose on Saturday and still get into the playoffs. We cannot.



What in the ever loving frick does this have to do with O?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:50 pm to
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find it interesting you want to throw up Orgeron's success through 8 games this season, but in the thread about Burrow, you want everyone to reserve judgement until he has a larger body of work


Maybe you should look at the OP. I'm not throwing his early success in anyone's face. The OP did. Another non reader in the thread.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Sure we can. We would need about 5 losses.

Yeah, you're right. I meant Alabama can lose on Saturday and still almost assuredly get in. As you illustrated, we will need a lot of help, and I think we would be the first 2 loss playoff team. Fitting, I guess, since we were the first 2 loss team to make the BCS too.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48005 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:53 pm to
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Based on? 


Lsu's and O's entire history.
You do reaize that O's best season ever is 4 losses.
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You realize you could say this about any coach that plays the schedules that LSU plays


Right.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48005 posts
Posted on 10/31/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Wants Les back. There goes your credibility. 


Well you dont have any to lose so i guess youre safe.
I said we'd be winning the same way. Or are you under the impression we arent out talenting teams(aside from uga), winning with defense,and have lost tp an inferior team already?
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