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Posted on 12/22/09 at 6:46 pm to LSURussian
I'm going Perkins Rowe with a sharp ginsu this time, brah ..
Posted on 12/22/09 at 7:14 pm to TigahRag
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totally agree, tree ... 70% of those people were caught up in the emotion of the moment ... I would have made the trip .. but dude .. that trip would have cost more than an entire season of road trips combined .. maybe 12K tops woulda gone ..
I can understand this. What I don't understand is why some individuals have so many of them. I always pre-order four to any bowl, but some are trying to sell 8/10 at a time. I have never seen this many on the exchange.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 7:29 pm to Newbomb Turk
quote:Think about how much those "fat cats" donate to our athletic program. If somebody wants to donate thousands of dollars to our athletic program and then buy great bowl tickets for face value (not exactly given away) then I say good for them. These "fat cats" could spend a lot less money buying primo tickets on stubhub and not donating to LSU. I have missed out on tickets in the past, but I appreciate the roles the big donors play in TAF and think they should be rewarded accordingly.
Further, I think you'll see people shying away from purchasing their tickets through LSU in the future. LSU is all about taking care of the fat cats with respect to both allocation and seating assignments. So, most people will just forego that crap (and their yearly donations) when they can come out MUCH better financially by just buying their tickets after the bowl games are announced. i think you'll see people just checking the BCS NC game box and nothing else. I believe all those years of catering to fat cats will and reducing the lottery for away and bowl games is going to come back to haunt LSU in the future.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 8:18 pm to tigerbyteu
I agree with you .. this confuses me too ..
Posted on 12/22/09 at 8:30 pm to Bayou Tiger
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If somebody wants to donate thousands of dollars to our athletic program and then buy great bowl tickets for face value (not exactly given away) then I say good for them.
Taking care of them is one thing, but hoarding to the exclusion of everyone else is another. They not only get 6-8 guaranteed tickets, they also get all the prime tickets basically hand picked.
Back in 2003, there were over 2,000 tickets available through the lottery. So, most season ticket holders had a chance. I know quite a few people who won the lottery (not me) so there was hope. By 2007, Skip only made a little over 300 available through the lottery. I didn't know a single person who won the lottery that year.
When people see they have absolutely no chance, they quit giving at the lower levels.
And, when they do "win" the occasional lottery to an away game, they get stuck with the worst seat in the house that they could have gotten on the open market much cheaper.
Again, this discourages donations.
All I'm saying is that in hoarding the tickets for the big wigs, they make the regular season ticket holder who may otherwise donate a smaller amount ($1,000 or less) to the TAF think twice. Why not just use that donation to buy tickets on the open market, save money, and definitely get better seats.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 8:37 pm to Newbomb Turk
this is VERY well put !!
Posted on 12/22/09 at 8:44 pm to TigahRag
I think it's very important to take care of the big donors 
Posted on 12/22/09 at 9:06 pm to TigahRag
TigahRag, What does it look like for attendance @ the Indy Bowl this year? A bunch of my Ag buddies (NOT 2%ers) are passing on the trip vs UGA. I may be able to go to Shreveport since I will already be in E. TX.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 9:51 pm to TigahRag
I haven't missed a game this year but the flight prices are outta control right now. me and 2 friends got roundtrip plane and 4 night stay at a pimp hotel the melrose place in Washington dc for half of what our plane to Orlando would cost. no thanks I'll go party in DC and prolly have more fun.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 11:15 am to Lithium
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I think it's very important to take care of the big donors
You've got to take care of all donors, especially in times like these (both economically and given the state of the football team). Obviously, you the bigger the donor the "more" you take care of them. But, you don't just piss on/insult the smaller donors as they are your yearly bread and butter. And, in the past 3-4 years, the Athletic Department and the TAF have virtually pissed on the small donors by severely reducing the already low number of tickets available in the lottery. At least give people a "realistic" shot. As long as they're hearing that a couple of the 30 people they know are "winning" in the away/bowl game ticket lotteries, they'll continue to give. Once they figure they have no f'ing shot, and they don't know a single person who "won" the lottery, they'll stop giving -- IN DROVES.
This post was edited on 12/23/09 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/23/09 at 11:27 am to Newbomb Turk
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that they could have gotten on the open market much cheaper
This is not true for big SEC away games, but is true for others (including non-BCS bowls). You can't get Auburn, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, etc. tickets for face value on eBay, StubHub, etc. Usually it's at least double.
I feel some sort of loyalty about buying non-BCS bowl tickets through LSU. I want bowls to know that when you pick LSU, they will sell their allotment and more. I feel like I'm doing my part by getting mine through LSU. I also like being in the LSU section.
I am getting tired of sitting in the nose bleeds though. The only away tickets I haven't gotten in my 8 seasons as a ticket holder were Bama in '07/'09 and UGA in '04, but the best seats I've had were in the '08 Peach Bowl and the '05 Ole Miss game. The rest have been pretty bad nose bleed sections ... but I've gotten SECCG, Sugar Bowl, and BCSNCG for face value. It's a mixed bag.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 11:29 am to Newbomb Turk
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But, you don't just piss on/insult the smaller donors as they are your yearly bread and butter.
I'm not disagreeing with your overall sentiment at all, but I think the big donors are the bread and butter. The smaller donors are the backbone of the "spirit" of LSU football.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 11:32 am to TriumphTiger
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This is not true for big SEC away games
But, if giving $1,000 a year gives you a 1:1000 chance to win these tickets in the lottery, you'd be much better off just using that $1,000 to buy those tickets.
And, you won't be stuck with the worst seats in the house, which is all the make available to the lottery "winners".
Posted on 12/23/09 at 12:41 pm to Newbomb Turk
I haven't read too much of this thread, but IMO it isn't the big donors that are the biggest part of the problem.
The biggest part of the problem are the people who pay the required donations to accumulate as many tickets as they cam...with the SOLE INTENTION of re-selling those tickets for profit. THEN, with the money they profited on selling the season tickets, they put towards a TAF or tradition fund donation the following year. THIS enables them to now obtain multiple accounts. The more accounts, the more they re-sell, the mroe bowl game/away game tickets they get. They more they get, the more they re-sell, the more they donate.
I don't care if Joe Impastato / Mike Serio (etc) gets 20 tickets to the sugar bowl. I know they are LSU fans and support the university in many ways and LSU isn't just a revenue stream for them.
I care if Joe Blow, the IT analyst, has 8 accounts with TAF and basically is contributing to the ticket shortages with the sole intention of re-selling tickets to the people he is not allowing to purchase tickets at face value.
The biggest part of the problem are the people who pay the required donations to accumulate as many tickets as they cam...with the SOLE INTENTION of re-selling those tickets for profit. THEN, with the money they profited on selling the season tickets, they put towards a TAF or tradition fund donation the following year. THIS enables them to now obtain multiple accounts. The more accounts, the more they re-sell, the mroe bowl game/away game tickets they get. They more they get, the more they re-sell, the more they donate.
I don't care if Joe Impastato / Mike Serio (etc) gets 20 tickets to the sugar bowl. I know they are LSU fans and support the university in many ways and LSU isn't just a revenue stream for them.
I care if Joe Blow, the IT analyst, has 8 accounts with TAF and basically is contributing to the ticket shortages with the sole intention of re-selling tickets to the people he is not allowing to purchase tickets at face value.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 12:55 pm to LSUfan4444
With the increasingly viable option of the internet ticket sales, I think schools are going to start balking at always getting the worse seats in the house from the bowl committee. It is actually the bowl people that are the problem. They keep the best seats for their own use/sale and give the crappy seats to the colleges ( aside from maybe 500-1000 really good seats for one student section (to show spirit for the TV) and the fat cats. Since most savvy season ticket holders and bowl game connoisseurs have realized that they can easily get better seats buying indirectly, the schools are having a worse and worse time selling their allotment and having to take a bath. This will only get worse. UGA I know hasn't sold out its ticket allotment for the Weedeater Bowl. Also, flying into Shreveport is ridiculously expensive right now and the drive is just too long which will keep even casual ticket buyers from biting. Market forces will eventually bring this system back to the center or swing the pendulum in the other direction. I still say long live an 8-team playoff with only conference champions allowed in. 6 big conferences plus the two from the lesser conferences with the best record/OOC scheduling.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 1:03 pm to SoGaFan
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I still say long live an 8-team playoff with only conference champions allowed in. 6 big conferences plus the two from the lesser conferences with the best record/OOC scheduling.
Posted on 12/23/09 at 2:55 pm to LSUfan4444
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I care if Joe Blow, the IT analyst, has 8 accounts with TAF and basically is contributing to the ticket shortages with the sole intention of re-selling tickets to the people he is not allowing to purchase tickets at face value
Actually, the way the system is set up now, having 8 accounts is the worst thing you can do. If you are a REALLY big donor, two accounts (yours and spouses) might be a good idea as you can get more tickets and more bowl/away game tickets.
But, for the vast majority of people, the only way you can move up the rankings is if you have all your points in one account. That way, you build up a ton of point in that one account (instead of spreading them thin) and might actually get some bowl/away/extra tickets.
With the lottery system being a complete joke, having 8 accounts does you practically no good. Back when you had a 25-50% chance having 8 accounts was good. Now, with about a .01% chance at winning in the lottery, 8 accounts just gets you more rejection e-mails.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 5:39 am to Stromile Swift
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We have something like 24 tickets and we'll probably use 8 of them
Hey Stro.
I live in Orlando, and the wife and I are looking at heading to the game without a ticket.
Let me know if you'll be selling any outside the stadium or if you think you'll get rid of them all beforehand.
Thanks.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 7:29 am to shel311
Fly in to Tampa on Southwest. 85 miles away and alot cheaper flight.
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