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re: The First Team Has LSU at 7-5
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:09 pm to profwilson
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:09 pm to profwilson
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They also went on to say that LSU is the hardest team in the country to predict. In their view, we could plausibly go 5-7 and miss a bowl game, or plausibly win the national championship. There's no other team in the country, in their view, where the range of realistically possible outcomes is wider.
It's not realistic that LSU could go 5-7 and anybody that says that stupid garbage should not be an analyst. With zero improvement anywhere, which isn't even possible, we'd still go at worst 8-4. The schedule is laid out to be 8-0 or 7-1 early. Logically we split the last two, or maybe a loss to Bama sends is on a 1-3 skid, but that's worst case.
Nobody else in the West actually improved. They all got weaker or stayed even. We don't play a tough OOC opponent. Our SEC East foes are both dealing with transition years. What could anybody with good sense possibly thinks makes us go 5-7 other than an extreme rash of injuries? They mean we win one game in conference? How much is somebody willing to bet on that possibility?
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:37 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Nobody else in the West actually improved.
And we know this how? I will be VERY surprised if Auburn is not improved over last year's 8-5 record. I also think Chavis will help make A&M's defense at least a little better, while their offense remains potent. Plus, I don't know an analyst in the country who doesn't think Arkansas will be better than they were last year.
The 5-7 or 6-6 scenarios basically assume that the Chavis to Steele transition will cause us to take a major step back on defense. I don't think that will be the case, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:50 pm to Jonathan Ikon
I believe the old adage that the quarterback gets too much credit when the team wins and too much responability when they lose !
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:03 pm to Jonathan Ikon
Macckeral will never like LSU with those bama tented glasses!
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:26 pm to profwilson
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And we know this how? I will be VERY surprised if Auburn is not improved over last year's 8-5 record. I also think Chavis will help make A&M's defense at least a little better, while their offense remains potent. Plus, I don't know an analyst in the country who doesn't think Arkansas will be better than they were last year. The 5-7 or 6-6 scenarios basically assume that the Chavis to Steele transition will cause us to take a major step back on defense. I don't think that will be the case, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Sorry it's insane. Auburn gets Muschamp, but loses everything productive on offense. Even with a loaded and experienced offense last year they went 8-5. Muschamp is no miracle worker.
TAMU gets Chavis, but one, he doesn't have the pieces to improve that bad of a defense, and 2, they've dropped in rushing in every statistical category for 3 straight years. You're not going to do better than 8-4/7-5 with no run game and a shoddy defense. Ole Miss with a good passing game and great defense (#1 scoring D) still only won 9 games last year.
Oh and for the record, I was talking team improvement. Lose a lot on offense, lose an experienced QB, lose a lot on defense, etc, does not offset getting a new coach.
Arky had a bad secondary last year, lose their 3 stars in the front 7, their best RB in their 1-2 punch, but are supposedly better because of magic fairy dust? Did they make some grand upgrade at coaching in those departments? Did they bring in some top flight stud? Brandon Allen didn't make some major upgrade, but I do see them a bit better passing than last year.
I'm not buying their hype and I damn sure ain't buying Auburn's hype.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:49 pm to Datbayoubengal
For the record, I see Auburn, Texas A&M, and Arkansas all finishing with better regular-season records than they did last year (that would mean Auburn winning more than 8, A&M winning more than 7, and Arkansas winning more than 6). To be clear, you think they will all do WORSE than they did last year?
By the way, I also expect Alabama, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State to do worse than they did last year (meaning winning fewer than 11, 9, and 10 games, respectively). I'll call for us to do just a tick better--a 9-3 finish.
By the way, I also expect Alabama, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State to do worse than they did last year (meaning winning fewer than 11, 9, and 10 games, respectively). I'll call for us to do just a tick better--a 9-3 finish.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:52 pm to lsu2006
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I have us at 10-2. And I've actually heard of me before, so there's that.
I believe you more than those yo-yo's lsu2006.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:58 pm to Jonathan Ikon
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And one thing McElroy is right about: we are banking on recruiting talent coming to fruition.
Absolutely false, it's not like we are starting a bunch of freshman this year. Last year we were one of the youngest teams in the SEC. Every starter this year had significant playing time last year. We are a little thin at a few positions, and defensive end is a question mark, but we know where we are at every other position. It's just a lazy observation to say that we had an ineffective QB last year and unless we have significant improvement then we will finish last in the SEC. With just a marginal improvement at QB we will win 9 games, a significant improvement and the sky is the limit.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:47 pm to westerntigerfan
Who are the recruits that are going to make our season? We are young but experienced. Lsu 's record will mirror the Qb play. But we shouldn't care what analysts predict for our team, good or bad.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:11 pm to DBeaux225
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Who?
Deez nuts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:36 pm to Guava Jelly
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Doesn't like our offense philosophy. Can't get my head around this being the common refrain. People's memory cannot possibly be that short.
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OUr offense philosophy has sucked for a long time. Just because we had great talent in 2013 and had more than our usual success on offense does not mean we had a good offense philosophy. Things look to be changing in that regard though and you can't expect outsiders to be aware of that. Sure we will be running the ball as much as ever but I think Miles/Cam are going to open it up a little and try to get the RB's room to run this year and not constantly try to slam it into stacked boxes
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:50 pm to boxcar willie
If I didn't know better and was a national media guy I would probably say 7-5 as well just based on our past history offense philosophy. All they know about is what they have seen from LSU in the recent past. But we are going to depart from the past and spread it out a little and get our playmakers in space to make plays. MOre shotgun and pistol, more 3 wr routes, more TE, more passes on early downs, more misdirection. If you stack the box we are going to throw over you. A more modern day pro style philosophy.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:51 pm to Guava Jelly
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Said all the optimism is banking on recruiting talent
You mean like with every team that is good? Also, I like how he is disregarding how much experience we return.
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Doesn't like our offense philosophy.
Can't get my head around this being the common refrain. People's memory cannot possibly be that short.
But he doesn't mention that national sports casters say that Alabama is the most over rated ranked team.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 8:10 pm to profwilson
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To be clear, you think they will all do WORSE than they did last year?
No that's exactly not what I'm saying at all. I have Auburn at 9-3, TAMU around 7-5 or 8-4 and Arkansas around 7-5. I had Arky at 8-4 before Williams went down, but now, I'm not so sure.
I'm just saying it's insane to think they improved so much to be, Auburn (playoff) and Arky (SEC West contender). On the same line, LSU, who actually upgraded in DL specific coaching and actually bring back a boatload of experience and talent on offense, the bad arse secondary, and run defense, is so hard to predict between 5-7 and 11-1. That's retarded.
Explain to me what Arkansas has improved on minus QB and OL? How does the defense look? I know about Philon and heard about another guy with potential, but that's it. Collins and Williams averaged less per carry in SEC play than Fournette, with this mucho great, top 3 in country, Arkansas OL and a slightly better passing game.
Explain what makes Auburn a 12-1 team? Jeremy Johnson showing out against Arkansas's secondary in the first half of the first game of the season, so now he's a heisman contender? Losing their top 3 rushers including the top 2 RBs? What is the offense now that we don't have to worry about a guy like Marshall flying all over the place? How well does the option work when we aren't as afraid of the QB run? Carl Lawson is just supposed to dominate after coming off a season ending injury last offseason? Who's supposed to be this other great pass rusher? A bad secondary did not just get better adding some transfers. I know about Johnathan Jones, both LBs and Adams on DL, but that's definitely not enough.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:40 pm to Jonathan Ikon
McElroy says Bama's O Line will be better although they lost talent. The new guys are better than last year's guys. He is a Bama tool.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 11:29 pm to monsterballads
So we have been predicted to be anywhere from 6th in sec west to making CFP..at least we don't have too long till we find out! there is a storm brewing in baton rouge boys!!! mark my words we are going to be tough!!
Posted on 8/27/15 at 11:34 pm to Jonathan Ikon
Zarzar also said that Fournette needed to mature and that he was a me guy. That pissed me off. This guy obviously doesn't know what he is talking about and he is attacking a kids character.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:10 am to The Hurricane
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Is their advertisement really just a selfie Greg took?
This sounds serious
Posted on 8/28/15 at 9:30 am to Choctaw
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thanks for your opinion Greg
I actually think GMAC has played it pretty fairly since he started as a commentator and haven't really noted any bias. He's also made some decent predictions.
Fact is, QB is still a huge question mark and if we don't get significantly better play than we did last year, 7-5 - 8-4 is a very realistic prediction.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:58 am to 3rdRowTrashTalker
This Duo does not come across as genuine with its approach in comparison to its peers on other radio shows. It could be do to the lack of true "hosting" experience on radio, but they are below average at best. I hate Bama as much as the rest of us but shocked that Greg is not better on the radio. It is surprising because McElroy is not bad on TV and has strong pedigree coming from NC team at Bama and was a very good college QB at one point who brings perspective to today's college football conversations that many sports show hosts can't. But on this show, he is not delivering on that and not being objective in his hot sports opinions and not great yet at helping his audience relate to his opinions which should be based on his first hand experience. Maybe it will take some time for Greg to learn and I hope he "gets it" soon and uses his point of view as an advantage to enhance his new craft. I have no idea why the ZarZar guy is there and I place little to no value in anything he offers up. There are folks on this rant who could handle ZarZars role with some training.
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