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re: The disrespect for CEH is absurd and unwarranted

Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155854 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:15 pm to
He was solid as frick and always is.
Posted by RainChance0
Houston
Member since May 2013
541 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:16 pm to

If a kid plays in 4 games or less then he can redshirt. This may or may not be in play here.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:17 pm to
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He is better is what

What makes you think CEH is better? I've seen both enough to grasp who is more talented. I don't even think it is close.

It isn't close. Guess we have to take it on faith then that the coaches will make the right moves. He isn't better though


Then please, for the love of god, tell us.

Why is Emery Not even the third option right now.

Are you his mom or something?

What do you know that the coaching staff doesn’t.

Or, are the coaches intentionally keeping the best back on the bench?

This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11926 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:18 pm to
I don’t have a problem with CEH. He’s a solid back who runs hard and has great agility. I have a problem with Fournette getting the #2 reps. He doesn’t look like anything special and I don’t see where he’s doing anything to keep Emery, Davis-Price, or Curry from getting carries instead
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39617 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:18 pm to
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The disrespect for CEH is absurd and unwarranted

I started a thread saying our veteran RBs were weak. But you are saying much the same as what I said. My point: CEH is a good change of pace, second or third string back. He is not LSU starter material, and you made the case as to why: he is slow. I will add that power is a weakness as well. We have no one else, so he starts, but they need to get the freshmen ready quickly.

Let me put it another way: If every LSU starter was as good at his position as CEH is at his we would have lost by 30 to Texas, and we would be a .500 ball club.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Scoop
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44583 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:19 pm to
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Emery gives that based on what exactly? His high school highlights against higher school players? His star rating?



Emery caught a swing pass last week and juked the DB so badly that he is still looking for his shoes today.

I thought we were hiding Emery last week and he was going to have a role last night.

He didn’t.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:19 pm to
I think people just saw what Etienne, another highly rated freshman in his year, did when he came to Clemson and assumed Emery would do the same here.

There are too many variables at play here, but I think Etienne just adapted to the college game quicker. He's a great player and a freshman coming in and doing what he did is not common at all, even for the elite guys.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20032 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:20 pm to
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idiots who predicted we'd blow out Texas by 3+ TDs.


In fairness, we scored plenty of points to make this happen. The defense let us down a bit on this.

But those two stops at the beginning were the whole game so I can’t be too hard on them.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:21 pm to
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I thought we were hiding Emery last week and he was going to have a role last night.

He didn’t.



I thought so to. The fact that he didn’t should tell us something.

Either he is not ready or he has an attitude issue that has him in the doghouse.

My assumption is that he just isn’t ready yet.
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
1829 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:22 pm to
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Is he elite like a Guice or Fournette? No, he’s not, but he’s a good RB. His only real weakness is break away speed.


In this offense he has to be a bigger threat to gain chunks on those screens. He just doesn't have the burst to make the defense account for him. Those screens should get 5-10 yards not 2 or 3!

I like CEH I'm just disappointed that he doesn't have the speed to break those screens into big plays!

Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
14851 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:22 pm to
CEH is a stud and plays like a warrior out there. Nothing but respect for that kid. He deserves to play.

And I don’t fault CEO for not putting the ball in a true freshman’s hands or expecting him to fully trust them with pass protections playing on the road against a top 10 team.

Too much on the line in this game. A loss last night and another against bama knocks you out of the playoffs.
Posted by Gondor
Jacksonville, Fl
Member since Nov 2004
971 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:23 pm to
This is correct response. I was surprised by the amount of work he got. But he is tough little SOB. I have grown to like him.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10333 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:26 pm to
With 4 WR sets and empty backfield sets splitting the RB out wide, pass protection and pass catching is going to be more important than what you usually ask for from a running back. Burrow’s ability to audible is an asset that bodes well for more experienced RB’s to see more action too.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5539 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:26 pm to
No one is disrespecting CEH. But if you recruit and sit 5* RB’s that word gets around and it will be tougher to get them signed in the future.

Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:27 pm to
He is a much needed scat back and I for one LOVE that he is back there. He is shifty, can catch, and can block his arse off! would love to have acomplimentary back come to the forefront before we get into the meat of the SEC - perhaps one of the younger guys.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted by herboldsheimer
Pine prairie, la
Member since Jan 2019
40 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:29 pm to
This offense is all about reads, timing, and knowledge. Between reads, schemes, blitz pick ups, and blocking assignments i can understand as to why the 2 upperclassman running backs are getting the majority of the snaps. The running stats will never be outrageous in this offense. Add the stats from the screen passes and dump offs to the running stats, and everyone will be happy. Several plays are designed to clear the linebackers and have the running back as a checkdown either on a swing or block and fade in the middle of the field. 5 yards every time. Once john emery and tdp get more familiar with their roles, they will get more playing time.
Posted by ewilliams000
Castor Springs
Member since Feb 2012
1957 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:29 pm to
We need to lay off disparaging CEH remarks. That guy would kill to be playing on this team.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:30 pm to
It's always amazing to see commentary based on so little information. The coaches see what the players have done in numerous practices. They know who should be able to help the team the most without making mistakes such as fumbles, mental errors, missed blocks, etc.

I am hopeful that the younger backs will get plenty of touches before the Florida game, but Coach O felt that last night's game was better suited to a seasoned back(s).
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:30 pm to
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No one is disrespecting CEH. But if you recruit and sit 5* RB’s that word gets around and it will be tougher to get them signed in the future


Is it really not possible that he just isn’t ready yet.

Would you rather play a guy with raw talent who doesn’t know his assignments over a guy who may have less than raw talent but does everything well.

FFS, if the coaches think CEH is the best option RIGHT NOW, that should be good enough.

And not all 5 stars show up with the right work ethic to contribute right away.
Posted by bondbyblood
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
161 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:37 pm to
Smh, a lot of posters look at measurables instead of actual game film. CEH is not slow at all but he’s know Darren Sproles either. The same thing was said about Laveon Bell and all he did was become the best back in the NFL. CEH is quicker than fast, but JH was fast but not faster than CEH. That was also a different level of athletes at that time period, example the Defense Bama had was built of big, stiff, slower guys. That’s why JH looked faster than he actually was. As much as I liked JH he wasn’t a great back in the nfl because of that. He was a good back if the hole was there, if he had to rely on speed to get outside or sting together a bunch of moves involving cuts to bounce outside, he never accomplished that because guys in the league were bigger and faster. CEH will have a better nfl career imo. The guy reminds me of Frank Gore, does nothing spectacular but is very good at everything.
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