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The Defense That Went to Fat Camp - calling workout fanatics
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:51 pm
Earlier someone had posted a link to WSJ article about LSU's strength and conditioning program - The Defense That Went to Fat Camp
Tommy Moffit's explains that his program is based on Plyometrics. When I tried to read up on Plyometrics, literature suggests that p90x was based on this program. p90x has been quite popular over the last two years. If you have participated in a similar program, you may have better insight into Moffit's comments.
Does a defense using plyometrics and dropping some weight have an advantage (or disadvantage) against a stout (or fat) Bama line or does a D line that has the weight in its rear-end have an advantage?
Tommy Moffit's explains that his program is based on Plyometrics. When I tried to read up on Plyometrics, literature suggests that p90x was based on this program. p90x has been quite popular over the last two years. If you have participated in a similar program, you may have better insight into Moffit's comments.
Does a defense using plyometrics and dropping some weight have an advantage (or disadvantage) against a stout (or fat) Bama line or does a D line that has the weight in its rear-end have an advantage?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:53 pm to YellowShoe
I'm going to guess moffitt knows better than anyone on this board.
ETA: and you insult Moffitt comparing his knowledge to p90x
ETA: and you insult Moffitt comparing his knowledge to p90x
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:55 pm to YellowShoe
Heil hitler. :mustache:
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:58 pm to YellowShoe
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Tommy Moffit's explains that his program is based on Plyometrics
Moffit is one of, if not the best S&C coach in the country.
it may be based off plyometrics, but his program is far different.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:59 pm to WavinWilly
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and you insult Moffitt comparing his knowledge to p90x
I love this post...but I hate it.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:03 pm to YellowShoe
Does anyone here speak German?
Sprechen sie Duetsch?
Sprechen sie Duetsch?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:03 pm to WavinWilly
Just trying to inject a different conversation for Bama game.
The article end with a comment
In preparing for Oregon, was LSU shortsighted or does the program work for all sorts of O Lines. If this program works, will the big uglies disappear for a sleeker faster model?
The article end with a comment
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The Crimson Tide runs a conventional, pro-style offense from behind a jumbo-size line
In preparing for Oregon, was LSU shortsighted or does the program work for all sorts of O Lines. If this program works, will the big uglies disappear for a sleeker faster model?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:05 pm to YellowShoe
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Just trying to inject a different conversation for Bama game
Maybe you should start with a different topic then.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:05 pm to The Nuts
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German
Sorry fella! didn't realize that there was some conversation about this topic. I may have missed it in all the JJ-JL topics.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:06 pm to Putty
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I love this post...but I hate it.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:11 pm to TyOconner
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Heil hitler
OK! can you post a summary of previous similar threads. Thanks.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:16 pm to YellowShoe
I've done p90x twice in a row, lost 40 lbs and gained a shite load of muscle. P90x plyometrics is a little different because it's done with body weight where as I'm sure Moffitt has some weighted vests strapped out our guys doing similar exercises. Nevertheless plyo is a great way to develop explosive speed and great cardio. If you do it right you should be able to put on muscle and gain speed. It's great of D-line and LB's because they are constantly coming off of the LOS and blocks so the need the explosive energy to shed a block or blow past someone. Extremely effective
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:17 pm to YellowShoe
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Tommy Moffit's explains that his program is based on Plyometrics
That's an oversimplification. He said he used Plyometric training in adding speed and explosiveness to the defensive line.
Plyometric training didn't originate with P90x, and for the record, P90x isn't even good plyo training - it's a home workout video (usual demographic = women) re-skinned to be macho.
Every football team in America uses plyo training to some extent, as well as calisthenics, sprinting, and olympic lifts, and hell maybe even some isometrics.
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Does a defense using plyometrics and dropping some weight have an advantage (or disadvantage) against a stout (or fat) Bama line or does a D line that has the weight in its rear-end have an advantage?
That's the goal, Plyometrics capitalizes burst strength or explosive power/movement. Think about the old sled drills, the way to move those weighted sleds is by continuously pumping your feet as opposed to leaning in and pushing. Each time your foot pushes off of the ground that's a burst of power, and it's more effective.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:20 pm to YellowShoe
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Moffitt stressed plyometric training. He had them flip tires and push sleds, varying the resistance based on what he called the coefficient of friction.
Guess WSJ hasn't ever taken a basic physics class.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:32 pm to YellowShoe
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Does a defense using plyometrics and dropping some weight have an advantage (or disadvantage) against a stout (or fat) Bama line or does a D line that has the weight in its rear-end have an advantage?
Plyometrics coupled with lifting should allow them to get leaner and weigh less, making them faster, but maintaining strength. I think it's a win/win.
FWIW, the "Insanity" workouts are all plyometrics.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:36 pm to Hulkklogan
plyometrics have been around in hs and more so in college since the 80's..it has evlved since....nothing new....everyone remembers jumping the "boxes" back then that has played sports in the past.....the boxes were the orignal trend back then...since then plyometrics have taken off....in closing....being able to move your body in any awkward situations("AGILENESS" so to speak)/directions greatly increases your chances of beating ur opponent head to head.....
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:39 pm to YellowShoe
I did a lot of plyometric training in high school for soccer. every year i would shave down my 40 time. Also helps with agility.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:43 pm to YellowShoe
I've done P90X and my roomate was a walk on at LSU. They're not even close to the same thing. i was out of shape and could do the plyo from p90. What LSU does is not even close to it man.
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