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re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassing

Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:59 am to
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16212 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:59 am to
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The only thing embarrassing was the complete inability of the defense to stop a perfectly mediocre Florida offense with a severely inexperienced QB.

Finally getting a few stops in the second half doesn't overshadow an overall inept performance
this.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:00 pm to
OU vs Bama

Tua first long play. 5 man rush. Linebackers aggressive against run

1st TD pass. 6 man rush, two LBs blitzing

Long pass to Jeudy in 1st. 6 man rush. Two blitzers

Next TD pass on check down to where 5th man blitzing came from.

Next TD pass. Play action. 5 people left in coverage.

Next TD pass. Play action and blitzing. 5 left in coverage.

You were saying?????
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282963 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:02 pm to
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OU vs Bama


Last year, different coordinator, different defense and completely irrelavent.


Posted by RobbDobb
Highlands Ranch CO
Member since Sep 2019
33 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:02 pm to
If the defense made just 2 more plays in the first half particularly on 3rd and long, and if we dont get that bs inteference call on floridas first drive of the second half, this game would have been a serious beat down.
Posted by HuckFinn
Member since Jan 2014
547 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:03 pm to
There is a difference between “crying” and making an “observation”. Even Coach Orgeron has said more than once that LSU has a “Tell The Truth Monday” where the coaches have an honest evaluation of how the team performed and where they need to improve. Anyone who would suggest that there were no concerns and there is nothing that can be improved is simply not paying attention. The defense has several areas that need to be examined closely on Monday.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282963 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:04 pm to
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perfectly mediocre Florida offense with a severely inexperienced QB.


This is correct. We didn't shake hm and made him look like a superstar

Most st of his passing yards were in the first half though.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1028 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:04 pm to
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Ok, well you saw what the conservative approach got us last night right? We were losing in the 3rd quarter and hadn't stopped them from scoring tds. When we switched to an aggressive approach and blitz Trask like we should have been doing from jump street, we shut them down and they didn't score again the whole game. If those results aren't obvious to you then you're an idiot. My problem with aranda is why does it take him so long to make adjustments in game and not make changes that obviously needed to be made? He needed to make changes much earlier last night and pressure Trask when it was obvious we couldn't stop them with the weak pass rush bc he was picking us apart.


When we were aggressive in the first half, they took advantage. They beat us on several plays where we were too aggressive. Maybe it's simply not that cut and dry? Just because we didn't get into the back field, doesn't mean we weren't sending pressure. Give Florida some credit, they made some phenominal play calls on Offense.
Posted by Kimist
Member since Nov 2011
478 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:04 pm to
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You can't bring pressure for entire game and expect to win though. These are top tier coaches, they all have plays to beat certain defenses. If the blitz worked against every play, everyone would do it, it simply doesn't. We got beat a bunch while being aggressive as well, especially on 3rd and long plays.



That MAY be true of this squad, but it us not always true. LSU has historically had several defenses that did it, in my opinion.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282963 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:05 pm to
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LSU has historically had several defenses that did it,


The national championship games are two examples.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:07 pm to
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Compare that to our strategy vs Ehlinger.


Hmm. Let's see. 1 game. OU has 5 games worth of film from this year.

And, again, 1 game.

Not to mention, while their offense is good, ours is better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282963 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Hmm. Let's see. 1 game. OU has 5 games worth of film from this year.



I guess the common opponent islost on you.

Not surprising at all.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46298 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:09 pm to
You have to mix it up. Falling back in prevent 3 man rush didn’t work one damn time last night and it didn’t work against Texas and were gashed by freaking NSU first few drives, if you think that shite is going to work against Tua and his elite receivers like Judy you are still drunk from last night.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:09 pm to
What was embarrassing was Florida converting all those 3rd and longs almost every time.....

Our LBs were always out of position to get a stop except on the goal line...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Last year, different coordinator, different defense and completely irrelavent.
The point being, one blitzed its arse off and one didn't.

You tried to deny they blized their arse off. Alas, that wasn't correct.

If you want to pretend the transitive property applies in football when you know better, you don't get to cherry pick your transitive application.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1028 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:10 pm to
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That MAY be true of this squad, but it us not always true. LSU has historically had several defenses that did it, in my opinion.


If any team ever blitzed on a majority of their plays, they would lose games. It may work against subpar teams, but that won't work against SEC talent. You are giving mismatches in coverage. In the past we have simply been more successful getting into the backfield, that doesn't mean we are rushing any more or less players. We were also a 4-3 D, whole different ballgame.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282963 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:11 pm to
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You tried to deny they blized their arse off.


Can you link me to this Texriddet? Thanks!
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1028 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:11 pm to
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What was embarrassing was Florida converting all those 3rd and longs almost every time.....

Our LBs were always out of position to get a stop except on the goal line...


This happens when you're too aggressive. That's what Ive been trying to explain here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282963 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:13 pm to
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you want to pretend the transitive property applies in football when you know better, you don't get to cherry pick your transitive application.


This year seems like a great place to do that sinc everthing isin common. Different plater so, coach and scheme last year

Btw, OU ranks ninth in third down conversion Tate on defense. LSU? 36th
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59128 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:14 pm to
Aranda has a history of meh first halves. Then good seconds. It is always like it is the first game our fans have watched.
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