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re: The corner end zone nullified TD
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:13 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:13 am to ForeverEllisHugh
The refs blew the call. To the point they even said “the play stands” and not “confirmed”. As if there was any part of that play that couldn’t be seen. Once he possesses the ball with a foot in bounds, the play is over.
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:27 am to PELsu
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The refs blew the call.
Nah. They didn't blow it. They did exactly what they were instructed to do. I'm glad that game wasn't close at the end. LSU losing by less than a score after having three scoring opportunities taken away by crooked officiating would have been hard to take, especially since it involved a potential playoff spot.
I understand why it happened though. LSU isn't a complete team and would get embarrassed in the playoff.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:29 am to ForeverEllisHugh
I don’t get the downvote and I’m in agreement it was a catch. My problem is the refs called what they did and the system doesn’t allow for change unless there’s substantial evidence to reverse.
It’s dumb that we staring at a picture see it’s a catch and they didn’t. And that’s due to this fricken “interpretation” of rules and “judgment” of referees that have to be protected at all times.
It’s dumb that we staring at a picture see it’s a catch and they didn’t. And that’s due to this fricken “interpretation” of rules and “judgment” of referees that have to be protected at all times.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:31 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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And after that pic he took two steps with the ball.
And two more out of bounds before he "lost" it.
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Just absurd to call it incomplete both on the field and in replay.
Is this your first season watching SEC football? They've been blatantly fixing games like this for years. Nothing absurd about it. Just part of the game for certain programs in certain moments.
LSU managed to beat Bama a few weeks ago despite "replay" not "working as intended".
At some point, you HAVE to realize this isn't an accident. When even video evidence is denied, you have to call a duck a duck.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:32 am to L S Usetheforce
There was zero reason to drop it. He caught it and was very lackadaisical in securing it. Such an easy td just hold on to the ball.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:34 am to Mister Flawless
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It’s dumb that we staring at a picture see it’s a catch and they didn’t
Because it was a catch and a TD. Are you coming to the realization that some games are fixed?
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And that’s due to this fricken “interpretation” of rules and “judgment” of referees that have to be protected at all times.
Why do you think this is the case? LOL
Just a few weeks ago, LSU won despite a similar instance where a ball was defected, we saw it on replay, but it was interpreted to not be the "spirit of the rule". Funny how those interpretations always seem to help certain programs.
That duck quacks pretty loud in our faces weekend after weekend, yet many fans are in denial.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:40 am to L S Usetheforce
I know it's been 45 years, and the rules have changed, plus it's NFL vs college, but Jeray had that ball in his control ONE BILLION times longer than Butch Johnson did on his TD "catch" for the cowgirls in SB XII.
Sorry don't know how to link, but just Google "Butch Johnson SB XII catch", and if you haven't seen it, you'll be AMAZED that qualified as a catch in those days.
And by the way, that was a catch by Jeray last night. Not saying it was intentional, but we had 3 pivotal incorrect calls made against us that had they been called properly, we may have pulled it out. Of course, we shouldn't have had the game come down to those plays either.
Sorry don't know how to link, but just Google "Butch Johnson SB XII catch", and if you haven't seen it, you'll be AMAZED that qualified as a catch in those days.
And by the way, that was a catch by Jeray last night. Not saying it was intentional, but we had 3 pivotal incorrect calls made against us that had they been called properly, we may have pulled it out. Of course, we shouldn't have had the game come down to those plays either.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:40 am to JYD
If touching the out-of-bounds line ends the play as in the fumble recovery against bama, why is the catch and play not over when the receiver's first foot steps out with full possesion?
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:49 am to L S Usetheforce
Anyone saying it wasn’t a catch is just trying to sound smart cause no one fricking understands these rules. The guy caught the ball clean, foot down, wasn’t going to ground.
Play should have been over before he got pushed. He wasn’t going to ground when he cleanly caught that ball.
If I’m a defender now, after seeing that play, I’m coming light up anyone that catches a ball in the end zone because apparently you have a certain amount of time to shove the guy down and if he doesn’t hold on it’s not a catch.
Play should have been over before he got pushed. He wasn’t going to ground when he cleanly caught that ball.
If I’m a defender now, after seeing that play, I’m coming light up anyone that catches a ball in the end zone because apparently you have a certain amount of time to shove the guy down and if he doesn’t hold on it’s not a catch.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:53 am to landrywasbeast30
ACC loses big
-OSU loses big
- fourth quarter of the iron bowl, Danielson starts the flowchart how Bana can get into the playoffs.
- 30 minutes later Nick Saban politicking at the podium for winning a shitty Iron Bowl and losing two games by four points
- PI call picked up the flag when LSU going in for possible points
- 2 drive stalling holding penalties in the 3rd should have told you that it was 72-70 all over again.
Touchdown catches being waved off late in the game.
And we were never going to be allowed to win that game last night.
So keep blaming Kelly or JD but next week will be just the same.
LSU was the mayhem all year. And we walk into Kyle and get blown out? It was a one possession game until the picked up PI call.
-OSU loses big
- fourth quarter of the iron bowl, Danielson starts the flowchart how Bana can get into the playoffs.
- 30 minutes later Nick Saban politicking at the podium for winning a shitty Iron Bowl and losing two games by four points
- PI call picked up the flag when LSU going in for possible points
- 2 drive stalling holding penalties in the 3rd should have told you that it was 72-70 all over again.
Touchdown catches being waved off late in the game.
And we were never going to be allowed to win that game last night.
So keep blaming Kelly or JD but next week will be just the same.
LSU was the mayhem all year. And we walk into Kyle and get blown out? It was a one possession game until the picked up PI call.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:53 am to ibleedprplngld
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Didn’t complete the catch to the ground. Pretty text book.
He wasn’t going to the ground. That’s the issue. He caught the ball clean with foot down. The play was over before defender pushed him. If he was going down as he caught ball, I understand. That’s not what happened.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:56 am to L S Usetheforce
It was a catch. Plain and simple. He caught the ball, got his leg down, he did not jump for it and the DB did not initiate contact until he made 1 maybe even 2 football moves with no ball movement at all. Play is over right there. He's an upright WR with no ball security issues because the DB engaged too late on the play.
If he left his feet or bobbled or is engaged as soon as he touched the ball he has to maintain it to the ground when the DB engaged him. None of this happened.
They fricked LSU alongside several other calls last night alongside many holding no calls.
If he left his feet or bobbled or is engaged as soon as he touched the ball he has to maintain it to the ground when the DB engaged him. None of this happened.
They fricked LSU alongside several other calls last night alongside many holding no calls.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/27/22 at 9:57 am to double d
If he possessed the ball in the endzone with one foot down before the defender shoved him, how does the defender still get to shove the player and that become part of the play? I thought once the ball crosses the endzone, after a clear catch, the play was considered a TD?
Seems to me that he firmly grasped the ball in the endzone, with one foot down in bounds. Then his second foot landed out of bounds. Then the defender shoved the LSU WR. The shove seems to be be null and void at that point because it is considered a TD before the shove.
Seems to me that he firmly grasped the ball in the endzone, with one foot down in bounds. Then his second foot landed out of bounds. Then the defender shoved the LSU WR. The shove seems to be be null and void at that point because it is considered a TD before the shove.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:00 am to 33inNC
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This is what I said too. Throw the ball on time and you have no issue.
Honestly, do idiots like you think human people playing qb are capable of seeing every single person on the field at the same time therefore should see every time a wr comes open even while avoiding traffic and looking at 5 other wr’s?
He hit the fricking guy in the belly in the back of the end zone.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:06 am to PELsu
quote:that's not even close to being the rule.
Once he possesses the ball with a foot in bounds, the play is over.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:06 am to Errerrerrwere
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ACC loses big
-OSU loses big
- fourth quarter of the iron bowl, Danielson starts the flowchart how Bana can get into the playoffs.
- 30 minutes later Nick Saban politicking at the podium for winning a shitty Iron Bowl and losing two games by four points
- PI call picked up the flag when LSU going in for possible points
- 2 drive stalling holding penalties in the 3rd should have told you that it was 72-70 all over again.
Touchdown catches being waved off late in the game.
And we were never going to be allowed to win that game last night.
So keep blaming Kelly or JD but next week will be just the same.
This guy gets it. Congrats.
I didn't like Miles, but I also never blamed him for losses where the game was obviously fixed. That's not fair to the coaches or players at all.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:06 am to double d
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He didn’t take two steps, he got a toe in bound with possession and was shoved, stumbling to the ground. In that process he dropped the ball therefore not completing the catch. Had it been ruled a TD initially it probably would have stood but the ref called it incomplete.
He wasn’t going to the ground. The play should be over before the defender ever touched him. If he had been going to the ground while trying to catch ball, that I understand. The refs fricked up and a lot of people are confusing different shite.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:08 am to Mister Flawless
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system doesn’t allow for change unless there’s substantial evidence to reverse
There was substantial evidence. Catch, feet down, pushed out of bounds.
Once the catch was made inbounds that play over, he was upright not falling or diving as he made the catch
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:13 am to atltiger6487
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It wasn't a football move. He caught it and immediate got knocked down.
In that situation, a receiver must maintain control all the way through contact with the ground. He didn't.
100% this. The bigger problem was Jenkins has to know to secure that ball like his life depends on it as he's going to the ground. Simple as that. It wasn't a huge hit and he muffed the landing.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 10:13 am to Y.A. Tittle
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The rule, as applied, seems to be basically encouraging defenders to hit players out of bounds.
Just hit players late in general, especially in the end zone.
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