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re: The bigger injustice is the scheduling

Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:36 am to
Posted by AshLSU
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Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:36 am to
The biggest injustice is the amount of recruiting violations they are allowed to get away with.
Posted by LSUChamp06
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2007
2859 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:37 am to
The permanents on the schedule need to be abolished. Each West/East Team should play 2 team different East/West teams each year, one home and one away. Work their way downn the list and then flip the home/away.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:39 am to
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Yes, you are correct in the '50's and 60's. The last time Tenn beat Florida more than two in a row, Ike was in the Whitehouse

But they also didn't play on a regular basis until 1990.

Twice in the 80's, 4 times in the 70's, once in the 60's (in a bowl game)...
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 8:40 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132827 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:39 am to
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How many times have we played UGA in the last 10 years and how many has bama played them, not counting seccg?


6 times each since 2000.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11336 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:40 am to
I've been saying this for 2-3 years, but you just said it a whole lot gooder.

The next set of billboards should read:

#scheduleequality

Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17745 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:42 am to
It's really not Bama's fault Tennessee sucks. They just got lucky that Tennessee has made pretty terrible coaching hires since Fulmer. The scheduling really doesn't bother me. We gotta beat the teams we play, no excuses.

Although I do agree the permanent opponent is a stupid idea. Just get rid of it and rotate opponents from the other division.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 8:43 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132827 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:45 am to
If the SEC Office would simply use the NFL formula based on the previous seasons results the scheduling would be fair. But no, we have to bow down to MUH Traditions.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12069 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:48 am to
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How do you expect them to play UGA and UF when their permanent cross division game is Tenn?


I would expect them to be rotated equally across the western teams if we were trying to keep the schedules fairly equal.

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It’s cyclical bro, we just have the misfortune of UF being good over the last 15 years and Tenn being bad.

I cant believe any LSU fans are really falling for this bullshite excuse. This may have started out to keep traditional rivalries in place, but it has been kept in place to give Bama an edge. They make all the decisions, as we know,so of course they want LSU to have a tougher annual matchup than Bama. Sure its slightly cyclical but some programs will always be better than others. In this century florida has always been much better than Tennessee. Tennessee has gone the way of Nebraska, army, and navy- a has been. But even if they were a power house, it would still be better to rotate all the teams than to have the same boring schedules every year. Better for players, fans, and scheduling equality.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7127 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:51 am to
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someone gets to play vandy every year



Ole Miss
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9689 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:51 am to
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Bama will argue its cyclical but they NEVER play two East Big Boys in the same year!


mainly because Tennessee has gone to complete shite the last decade.

‘07 they got UGA (top 5 in BCS) and Tennessee (East Champ).


Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7127 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:55 am to
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The disparity’s always there with Florida our annual, and Tennessee theirs, but is magnified this year when you add Georgia to our rotation.


I actually like our schedule. Gives us the better resume, and makes us the more seasoned team when Alabama rolls around.

Bottom line is, if we are the better team, it shouldn't be a problem. The greater the challenge, the greater the reward.

Also, over the next few years we're going to be getting even better.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12069 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:58 am to
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Tennessee was ranked higher than Florida at the end of the season in 2003, 2004, and 2007.

03 and 04 were the ron Zook years. that didn't last long. in 07 florida beat UT by 30 points.

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But the thing people are forgetting is that Ole Miss, Vandy, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Missouri probably don't want to give up their cross-divisional rivals as well.

This is true, because everyone's looking out for their own interests. nobodys concerned about a level playing field and LSU gets hosed as usual. The reason this Devin White thing is so big, is not because it was premeditated collusion, its because it shows the obvious contempt and disregard the SEC has for LSU. Its why we get jumped for bowl games by lesser teams, why we go to florida twice in a row when they fake a hurricane, and why they could give a damn about suspending our best player on a BS call for the biggest game of the season.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:59 am to
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tennessee was better than florida for a long time, so I don't agree with your argument on that point


Well, this has been an issue since the SEC expanded to accept USCe and Arkansas back in 1990-91. At this time, one could argue that the match-ups, after making sure the "traditional rivalries" got pout together, were fairly even. After all, until Spurrier arrived at UF, they had never won the SEC...ever. Amazing as that is, it's true. So matching them up with LSU wasn't some huge deal.

Then Spurrier and the 90's happened, and LSU essentially got their arse handed to them, most in horrific fashion, for a decade having to play them every single year. In the 12 season from 1988 through 1999, LSU won ONE game...the '97 game in Tiger Stadium. That's WHY that win was so monumental.

Since 2000, things have stabilized for that game. There have been 19 games including this year, with UF holding a 10-9 win lead. so even after all of our recent success, this game is a 50-50 game matching two heavy weights.

So what about UT and BAMA? From that 1988-1999 stretch when UF was kicking our teeth in, BAMA went 6-5-1 with Tennessee. Oh, the series was streaky, with BAMA winning 5 straight at first, then a tie, then another win in 1994. Then TENN took the next 5.

Since 2000? They've had 19 games, with BAMA going 14-5. This includes the current TWELVE GAME win streak, and 13 out of 14.

So...from 1988 to 2018, Florida has held a 21-10 lead over LSU, which includes what we like to call our "Golden Age" here.

From 1988 to 2018, BAMA has held a 20-10-1 lead over UT.

BAMA's permanent cross division game is nowhere NEAR as difficult as ours, and in fact, it's flipped on its head with BAMA holding a convincing margin of superiority. In other words, their desire to keep the "Third Saturday in October" rivalry has meant that they have ALSO benefited that much over their next greatest SECW rival. They got a patsy, and we got a beast.

Sure, it's about keeping tradition, but there would be ways to have these two (And AU-UGA) play each other every season which would not ALSO put LSU behind the 8-Ball. This way, they get both...
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36419 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:59 am to
This biggest joke about the scheduling was the “bridge” schedules after expansion. We had to play Georgia and South Carolina twice since then while Bama got Mizzou and Kentucky

Now that it’s back on a rotation I don’t really care since it is what it is
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12069 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:00 am to
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How many times have we played UGA in the last 10 years and how many has bama played them, not counting seccg? 6 times each since 2000.


Now do how many has each team played Florida AND Georgia in the same season
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12069 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:04 am to
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It's really not Bama's fault Tennessee sucks.


Its not LSU's fault either.

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They just got lucky that Tennessee has made pretty terrible coaching hires since Fulmer.


And they got lucky that Devin White is suspended. and that the SEC HQ got put in Birmingham, and with the bridge scheduling,and that PP7 got hosed on an int call, and that some judge let a Bama All American walk on gun charges, and that the refs missed all those other targeting calls....real lucky, aren't they?
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 9:34 am
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30881 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:06 am to
I don’t remember UF EVER being as bad as Tennessee is now. And I’m old. Since the Alabama/SEC scheduling department ensures they never have to play UGA during the regular season it makes it easier for the midget to help Kirby take anyone he doesn’t have space for to ensure LSU or Auburn don’t get them.
Posted by LSU91MBA
Houston
Member since Aug 2008
1588 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:07 am to
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Bama will argue its cyclical but they NEVER play two East Big Boys in the same year!


In the late 1990's with Tennessee was the perennial "power" in the SEC East and UGA wasn't all that good... nobody complaining.

It is what it is --- Tennessee has been bad, so it looks out of whack since Bama has been so good.... but AU has to play UGA every year, we play UF every year and Bama plays UT every year.

The "solution" would be to do away with "permanent" cross division games, but AU wants that UGA game, LSU and UF is a great rivalry too....

I'm ok with it.

Think about this --- if S. Carolina starts really sucking... and Jimbo gets aTm really going... they have an "easy" route to win the SEC west too.
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
1518 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:08 am to
How about we start by eliminating all FCS opponents from SEC schedules?

Then, maybe limiting the G5 opponents to one in-state team per year?

Then, maybe add one or more SEC east vs SEC west games/year.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:08 am to
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This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 9:10 am
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