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re: The backjudge is the culprit
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:44 pm to 62zip
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:44 pm to 62zip
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Of course he did. What he did after the play is laid out word for word in the book. The rulesmakers thought enough of it to use it as a specific example of unsportsmanlike
forest...trees
The good officials would have let that go given the situation. Anyone with common sense would have known that Locker's actions were not directed at the opponent at all. Good officials understand that those rules are meant for a purpose...and that they should never be applied lightly or in a situation that could affect a game's outcome.
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:49 pm to 62zip
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I claimed no such thing. No idea where you got that from. You call what you see. But in order to call it you have to see it. If your responsibility requires you to be looking at something other than the spot where a particular event occurs, well then it's pretty touch to call it, don't you think?
Are you claiming only one official saw Wing's actions? Or that only one saw Locker?
You are being dishonest in an attempt to prove your point. Very weak.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:50 pm to moneyg
I wonder why Les told the ref it was a good call? Oh yeah, because it was.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:50 pm to moneyg
Yep, and he can use your forest/trees analogy when his supervisor wants to know why he let it slide. Then he can think about it when he grades out at the end of the year and it costs him a bowl game.
You really need to call the SEC (or the Pac-10)and offer your services. You have all the answers.
You really need to call the SEC (or the Pac-10)and offer your services. You have all the answers.
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:51 pm to AlxTgr
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I wonder why Les told the ref it was a good call?
I would like to know where you are getting this. Based on what I saw on TV (DVR'ed the game) it appears as though Miles was unhappy with the call.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:53 pm to moneyg
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Are you claiming only one official saw Wing's actions? Or that only one saw Locker?
I read on this very board that no one could see it at all. Seems logical right? On Wing's play, at the absolute most, two of them might have had a shot at seeing it - but of course it's moot since he did it and he got caught.
As for Locker, I have no idea if one or more saw it - you can't even tell from the video whose flag it is, though I have my suspicions.
I'll have to remember though from now on, anytime I see a foul and there is only one flag on it, it's obviously bogus.
BTW make sure and let Les and Wing know it was bogus too, they haven't gotten the memo yet.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:55 pm to lsuhunt555
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I would like to know where you are getting this. Based on what I saw on TV (DVR'ed the game) it appears as though Miles was unhappy with the call.
Where are you. If you have Cox, watch their replay. According to Jordy, Les told him (the B) 2-3 times that it was a good call.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:55 pm to moneyg
Why the frick is this thread still going on? I think some of you like arguing just for the sake of arguing.
It's a horrible rule but the ref made the right call according to the rules. What is so fricking hard to understand about that?????? The fact that we are 6-0 and number 1 and this shite is being debated baffles me.
It's a horrible rule but the ref made the right call according to the rules. What is so fricking hard to understand about that?????? The fact that we are 6-0 and number 1 and this shite is being debated baffles me.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:57 pm to 62zip
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If you have Cox
Dont have Cox.
Like I said, I re watched some of it yesterday, specifically this play and it looked to me like Miles wasn't happy about it. Not arguing, just saying what it looked like to me.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:59 pm to lsuhunt555
quote:Besides hearing Jordy and not thinking Jordy lied, watch 1:14 to 1:17
I would like to know where you are getting this.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:59 pm to 62zip
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when his supervisor
Now it matters what his supervisor wants to know?
He just makes the calls, right? There's no decision to be made. The rulebook has clearly stated what he should do.
You're a weak cop-out.
I'm fine with the call. Really, I am. Didn't affect the outcome of the game.
My point is that when the eventual meeting of the minds occurs amongst the officials that really matter, not the ones like you on the field, I hope they don't make every power tripping guy like you start using this play as a precedent to determine the outcome of games.
There were several gestures made during the course of this game that were more flagrant than the one flagged. Just imagine how ridiculous it can become.
And, if they decide to enforce, and use this as their prime example, then more power to them.
Be fricking consistent with the call!
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:07 pm to wahoocs
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Now it matters what his supervisor wants to know?
It matters when you ignore stuff, absolutely. This really isn't that hard.
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He just makes the calls, right? There's no decision to be made. The rulebook has clearly stated what he should do.
Yep, that's what I said. You do that and then you are golden with your supervisor.
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You're a weak cop-out.
That hurts me.
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My point is that when the eventual meeting of the minds occurs amongst the officials that really matter, not the ones like you on the field, I hope they don't make every power tripping guy like you start using this play as a precedent to determine the outcome of games.
frick you.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:10 pm to AlxTgr
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watch 1:14 to 1:17
Yea, I see it now. I thought he was saying "your fault" as in that bad call is your fault.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:13 pm to 62zip
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Yep, and he can use your forest/trees analogy when his supervisor wants to know why he let it slide. Then he can think about it when he grades out at the end of the year and it costs him a bowl game.
All you are doing is shifting blame. Anyone who wouldn't understand the reasons that a flag was not thrown in the Locker situation is worthless.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:14 pm to moneyg
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All you are doing is shifting blame. Anyone who wouldn't understand the reasons that a flag was not thrown in the Locker situation is worthless.
No, what I'm doing is explaining to you the reality of how it works.
You can either choose to accept that or not. Either way is fine.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:26 pm to 62zip
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So the illegal formation flag was in error? Do we have film?
About what I expected out of you. They replayed it during the game prior to the fake and it was very obviously not an illegal formation. They called 5 men in the backfield and you could count 7 on the line. The best guess that Gary came up with was that one of the lineman was eschewed back just a bit. When pressed he said, "I was asked to explain it. That was my best shot."
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:29 pm to 62zip
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I'll have to remember though from now on, anytime I see a foul and there is only one flag on it, it's obviously bogus.
Yep. That is clearly what my contention is.
Are you really syggesting that an official can not use their judgement on a play like that? Because that WAS my contention. Do you really disagree with that? Or are you just arguing each individual poin without regard to the larger point.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:29 pm to AlxTgr
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I wonder why Les told the ref it was a good call? Oh yeah, because it was.
:rotflmao: Sarcasm does exist, my friend. Seriously, it's like telling someone "Nice job, a-hole." Doesn't really mean you think he did a nice job.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:30 pm to 62zip
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I read on this very board that no one could see it at all. Seems logical right? On Wing's play, at the absolute most, two of them might have had a shot at seeing it - but of course it's moot since he did it and he got caught.
Go rewatch the play. There is a line judge within 10 yards of Wing looking directly at him through the entire thing.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 4:32 pm to Jester
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About what I expected out of you. They replayed it during the game prior to the fake and it was very obviously not an illegal formation. They called 5 men in the backfield and you could count 7 on the line. The best guess that Gary came up with was that one of the lineman was eschewed back just a bit. When pressed he said, "I was asked to explain it. That was my best shot."
About what you expected? Sure, why wouldn't you expect me to inquire about something that I haven't seen other than in the stadium?
I know you're trying to be a smartass for some reason, but I don't really understand the tack you're trying to take here.
What would you like me to say? That I know for certain that a flag on a play that I haven't seen other than one time, in the stadium, was a shitty call?
OK
The the illegal formation flag was total horseshite.
Happy?
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