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re: The backjudge is the culprit
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:32 pm to 62zip
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:32 pm to 62zip
quote:Which is why i posted it. Why are you thinking I am saying anything other than that?
Jordy said he told him it was a good call, more than once. What in the clip indicates otherwise? In fact that's pretty much what it looks like he's saying.
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:35 pm to AlxTgr
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wrong.
right.
The call against Jake Locker a couple of years ago was a similar situation. It cost them the game. 62zip would have been on here saying the same damn thing..."don't make us use our judgement if you don't like it." And everyone else who watches, plays, or coaches football would be saying that the official shouldn't have made that call.
Nobody wants a ref to affect a game unless it is an over the top act...and certainly not in a situation which takes points off the board. That is beyond ridiculous.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:36 pm to tjohn deaux
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I do think he should be more careful and spread his arms AFTER he crosses the damned goal line! obvious fumble risk is obvious
1) he didn't have anyone around him
2) those who could have caught him were clearly visible.
3) the ball was in front of him. It's not like he blindly held the ball behind him where TE defender could just swat at the ball.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:40 pm to moneyg
quote:That's a great rant and all, but it doesn't change the fact that the call against Wing was correct and that Les said so immediately.
The call against Jake Locker a couple of years ago was a similar situation. It cost them the game. 62zip would have been on here saying the same damn thing..."don't make us use our judgement if you don't like it." And everyone else who watches, plays, or coaches football would be saying that the official shouldn't have made that call.
Nobody wants a ref to affect a game unless it is an over the top act...and certainly not in a situation which takes points off the board. That is beyond ridiculous.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:41 pm to Mike Linebacker
Someone needs to run into this guy during the play.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:42 pm to CajunFootball
Just shoot him in the face with a Judge.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:49 pm to 62zip
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This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:16 pm to moneyg
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There it is.
I could tell this from your first post. And, all you have proven is that you are incapable of being unbiased.
Let's just say that 99% of fans, coaches and players think that the judgement used by that official was wrong. You are on the other side. That says it all.
But don't let that deter you. Don't let any of those people get in the way. By god, you are a part of the game, and nothing is going to change that. And, if they don't like it you can go ahead an inject yourself into another situation. That will show them. Then you can hide behind the fact that it is a judgement call.
I have news for you. You aren't a part of the game. People aren't cheering for you. They don't want to notice you. In fact, they want to NOT notice you. The good officials out there understand this. You need to take a look at yourself.
What's apparent is that you don't know me nor anything about me.
I can tell you though, that the day I give two shits about the opinion of some internet fanboy is the day I retire. And unlike an internet fanboy, potificating via his keyboard, I actually put my arse on the line every Friday.
I'm glad to see you brought up the flag that Locker drew. His action was specifically prohibited by the rule book, verbatim and he cost his team a game through his selfishness. It was a shame.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:39 pm to 62zip
I wish they were as strict on officials as the officials are on players. A series of blown/bad calls should result in suspension or just one egregious blown/bad call. I certainly have no problem doing a little more digging on this guy to determine if there is sufficient evidence to warrant firing him.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 1:40 pm to 62zip
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I can tell you though, that the day I give two shits about the opinion of some internet fanboy is the day I retire. And unlike an internet fanboy, potificating via his keyboard, I actually put my arse on the line every Friday.
which is why you responded
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I'm glad to see you brought up the flag that Locker drew. His action was specifically prohibited by the rule book, verbatim and he cost his team a game through his selfishness. It was a shame.
jesus christ.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:08 pm to TigerBait1127
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jesus christ.
You disagree? Bad flag?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:10 pm to JColtF
quote:
I wish they were as strict on officials as the officials are on players. A series of blown/bad calls should result in suspension or just one egregious blown/bad call. I certainly have no problem doing a little more digging on this guy to determine if there is sufficient evidence to warrant firing him.
Ahh, but see, they are. Grades for every game - and when you don't measure up, no post season and then after a couple of years with no post season, then the conference cuts you loose. It's been that way for a long time.
I would be interested in seeing the results of whatever digging you might do. How exactly are you going to determine whether or not there is "sufficient evidence to warrant firing him"? What critera will you be using?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:22 pm to 62zip
This call is way too discrentionary. The rule itself is so vague it would be blatenley unconstitutional if it was a law. Just imagine we score wining TD versus bama with 55 seconds left. I promise there will be enough of an emotional release to allow someone to throw a flag. If we want to leave it up to officials again in Tuscaloosa.....
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I was addressing someone saying he got in bakers face and was going off on him. IF (disclaimer made public so you don't misrepresent yet again) this was the case, it was unprofessional and goes far beyond what you believe to be "preventative officiating" which is taught differently under professional guidelines. The poster I was talking to believed it to be appropriate.
he had a big B on the back of his shirt
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:25 pm to 62zip
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You disagree? Bad flag?
yes. I guess I expect an official to use his brain instead of just being a mindless drone.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:27 pm to TigerBait1127
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yes. I guess I expect an official to use his brain instead of just being a mindless drone.
So, in other words, if you flag a kid for doing something specifically prohibited in the book, then that's a bad thing, right? Do you even remember the Locker play? Locker made his bed and the Huskies had to lie in it.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:28 pm to TigerBait1127
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This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:28 pm to TigerBait1127
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he had a big B on the back of his shirt
What did he tell him? And what did Baker do to prompt the discussion?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:30 pm to TutHillTiger
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This call is way too discrentionary. The rule itself is so vague it would be blatenley unconstitutional if it was a law. Just imagine we score wining TD versus bama with 55 seconds left. I promise there will be enough of an emotional release to allow someone to throw a flag. If we want to leave it up to officials again in Tuscaloosa.....
So then it sounds like your beef is with the rule, right? That's on the coaches.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 2:51 pm to 62zip
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Did Florida taunt on their TD and I missed it?
What TD? Wing's breaking of the rule occured on the 8 yard line, right? It has to be a TD, now. Where does it say that?
Where was the flag when Florida #51 did his throat slash after the non-horse collar tackle? Who was he directing his gesture at?
The call on Wing is a slippery slope. One that the official had to know would set precedent.
Is that really the play you want to set precedent on, when even the other guys on your crew don't throw a flag.
Or when a different crew at a different game does not flag a TD scored where the runner does everything but run backwards before placing the ball on the ground just beyond the goalline at a dead stop?
You fall somewhere between a female judge and God. You must be a lawyer by trade, and an official on the side. You show up in every thread that deals with officiating. Certainly, even you can see the call leaves itself open for debate, and would not be an example the head of officials would want to use as precedent setting.
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