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The Advocate on Joe Brady and WRs

Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:31 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:31 am
The Advocate ran a great article this morning titled "Receiving Attention" and has some really good stuff from Brady in it. I will post some quotes since not everyone subscribes. This is probably all in the video in the other thread, but this seemed easier to me.
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Brady said the Tigers' new spread offense will also help solve the pass protection issues that plagued LSU throughout the 2018 season, when the team ranked tied for 106th nationally with 35 total sacks allowed.

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Brady claimed that statistics have proven that when a team is in five-man protections — meaning only the offensive linemen are blocking — that a team will give up fewer sacks.

"(When) you can get the ball out fast, it limits what the defense can do," Brady said


Thought about Ricky when I read this one.
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No more is any receiver learning a specific position, Brady said. They're learning route concepts, so that every receiver on the roster can be placed anywhere on the field. It's designed to seek out favorable matchups against defensive backs, which Brady said have the advantage when an offense limits its receivers to specific positions.

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But the receiver who has shown the most improvement, Joseph said, is Terrace Marshall. The 6-foot-4, 209-pound sophomore didn't break out during his true freshman year, Joseph said, because the recovery from a broken fibula he suffered in high school was still stunting his breakaway speed.

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Brady tells them every day that the LSU offense now runs through them.

"There's not a day we can take off," said Brady, a former wide receiver at William & Mary. "I want them to have that mentality. I'll be damned if the receivers (that came) before us turn on the games on Saturday and don't see that physicality and mentality from this wide receiver unit."

LINK

There's more there and is a great read, but that's the stuff that really stood out to me.


Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:45 am to
Good stuff, man. Thanks.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:52 am to
I really think with this RPO concept and getting the ball out of Joe's hands quickly into playmakers hands in space is going to make a world of difference. I have never been a fan of max protect especially in the past 10 years when the game has moved to where it is now. It's all about pre snap reads, and I think we have the perfect QB in place for this thing to work, let's also not forget that Burrow is a very capable runner...
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 5:53 am
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:20 am to
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No more is any receiver learning a specific position, Brady said. They're learning route concepts, so that every receiver on the roster can be placed anywhere on the field. It's designed to seek out favorable matchups against defensive backs, which Brady said have the advantage when an offense limits its receivers to specific positions.


This is what makes Saban and Dabo win. When Saban was here he was a good coach, not great. Then he went to Miami where the PRO approach is more like above and became a much better coach.

Miles, and most college coaches, have had ONE plan and we seldom tried to specifically target "individual matchups". We tried to keep it close and overpower them at the end...will not work with talented and equal teams.

This is the way of the pros..exploit the matchups...win a hand full of them and you have enough points to win the game.

Excited.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:24 am to
yall member the clips of the senior citizen bitching about them stepping on the wrong footseses


I member


So glad we have some fresh ideas in the building.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:38 am to
One thing that does give me some optimism here is that I can't recall when a newly hired position coach was allowed to talk at length with this much freedom before. I may be wrong on that, but I can't think of one, especially on offense.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:10 am to
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One thing that does give me some optimism here is that I can't recall when a newly hired position coach was allowed to talk at length with this much freedom before. I may be wrong on that, but I can't think of one, especially on offense.


He said he doesn't like being out in-front (talking to the media) but of all the LSU coaches he probably likes or accepts it more than the rest. Aranda could do interviews every day IF he wanted.

"Steve Ensminger as he sits down with reporters: I brought Joe Brady here so I wouldn’t have to answer any of these questions."



Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93698 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:22 am to
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Aranda could do interviews every day IF he wanted.

Well, sure but he's the defensive coordinator, not a position coach in his first year with the program. Honestly, I'm really not sure what your response has to do with what I posted at all.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:28 am to
Good hack... when the Advo page comes up, immediately hit the stop button (the X). The page will load without the overlays that make it unreadable.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:53 am to
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I'll be damned if the receivers (that came) before us turn on the games on Saturday and don't see that physicality and mentality from this wide receiver unit."


If this thing works at 90 to 100 percent of it's reasonable potential, Bama is not safe.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 9:58 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93698 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:01 am to
Absolutely. I doubt that you're going to find anyone that disagrees with that statement.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:02 am to
"f this thing works at 90 to 100 percent of it's potential, Bama is not safe."

Agreed and this is not just P&G homer-ism. You do not have to be as good as another team to give them trouble, but you have to do some things to give them trouble. E.g., Ole Miss has had some success against Bama without being all that good overall. the talent differential is not so great as to justify the can't-even-move-the-ball whippins we've been taking.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:03 am to
First of all, I want to say that posts like these are what every thread with a link should be like. A nice summary with some quotes from the article so we don't have to click the link if we so choose, but also get a feel for the discussion. Well done.

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Brady claimed that statistics have proven that when a team is in five-man protections — meaning only the offensive linemen are blocking — that a team will give up fewer sacks.

"(When) you can get the ball out fast, it limits what the defense can do," Brady said
Pre-snap reads will be huge. I'll be interested to see what we do against defenses that adjust for that and throw in some wrinkles and disguised coverages to confuse our guys. There are some great coordinators in this league so on-field adjustments will be key. I'm sure Brady has plenty of experience with that coming from Sean Payton/Drew Brees.

Also if you think about only blocking with 5:
1. Those are olinemen and are the best pass blockers on the team

2. You get less speed rushers (linebackers, safeties) that have to be handled
i.e. teams that run a 4-3 will be rushing 2 DTs, 2 DEs, and maybe blitzing a LB against a 5 man blocking scheme, or a defense sees you go max protect (keep 8 in to block, send 2 on routes) and sends 2 DTs, 2 DEs, & 2 LBs, and the SS while keeping 4 in the defensive backfield to cover 2 receivers. Would you rather block 4 slower guys with your 5 best pass blockers? Or block 4 slower guys and 3 faster guys with your 5 best pass blockers and 3 that aren't typically as good?

3. You get more playmakers on the field running routes and more opportunities to get advantaged matchups

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No more is any receiver learning a specific position, Brady said. They're learning route concepts, so that every receiver on the roster can be placed anywhere on the field. It's designed to seek out favorable matchups against defensive backs, which Brady said have the advantage when an offense limits its receivers to specific positions.
This is great stuff. Option routes can be devastating if the QB and receiver have great chemistry and are on the same page. Being able to line up at WR, see what the defense give you and decide what is the best route to run is huge. If the QB also recognizes and reads the same thing, it's championship, all-pro level ball.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93698 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Pre-snap reads will be huge. I'll be interested to see what we do against defenses that adjust for that and throw in some wrinkles and disguised coverages to confuse our guys. There are some great coordinators in this league so on-field adjustments will be key.

quote:

You get more playmakers on the field running routes and more opportunities to get advantaged matchups

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QB and receiver have great chemistry and are on the same page. Being able to line up at WR, see what the defense give you and decide what is the best route to run is huge. If the QB also recognizes and reads the same thing, it's championship, all-pro level ball.



No bullshite. This is one of the best posts I've read on here in a long, long time. Well thought out, well written and completely pertinent to the thread while also leaving room to invite further discussion. People need to take notes.

If we could get more posts like this we might get past 1 or 2 pages before the bullshite starts.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:25 am to
Quote from Ensminger that Kubena said didn't make the article.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93698 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:27 am to
I know it's juvenile and childish, but even as a 44 year old man that quote just gave me chills. It at least gives us some actual, real insight that Ensminger is on board with this tweak to his scheme. Thanks for adding that. That's awesome.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:32 am to
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I'll be interested to see what we do against defenses that adjust for that and throw in some wrinkles and disguised coverages to confuse our guys.


Pump and go routes usually work pretty well when they start cheating on the short stuff.

If you throw a bunch of screens/slants in a row and pump to that side again, usually you can get someone open when the safeties and corners start creeping up.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77601 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:34 am to
We were screaming it all year long: why are we waiting on these long routes to develop when we can't protect?

Regardless of it's a philosophy, we should have been doing it more out of necessity than anything. Jefferson seemed like he could have had a good game against Bama last year, but then we started trying to hit the homerun and couldn't keep Burrow on his feet.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:35 am to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93698 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:38 am to
quote:

Pump and go routes usually work pretty well when they start cheating on the short stuff.

If you throw a bunch of screens/slants in a row and pump to that side again, usually you can get someone open when the safeties and corners start creeping up.

We did this one year beautifully in TS when Stud was the OC. Please forgive my memory, but I think it was actually to Russell Sheppard, but I could be wrong about that. I do remember for sure that it was to the left side of the field, perhaps vs Bama.

Please talk to your kids about the long term effects drugs have on your brain. You're welcome to use me as an example. I can't remember shite sometimes.
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