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re: Terrace Marshall Jr. on the O.C. change

Posted on 1/16/18 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19098 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 4:58 pm to
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Why in your mind is he deserving of this level of trust?



The simplest answer is that I (we) dont have a vote in it. We get to vote with out feet. If we dont like it we get to move on until something changes.

Meanwhile, I will go see what this team does and be there to cheer them on if they succeed. If they dont I guess I will whine and cuss again like many others.

I do know one thing... If you can imagine CEO being as stupid as his most ardent enemies on this board think he is he is still more football smart than 99% of the people on this board. I feel condfident saying there are no NCAA FBS head coaches or assistants on this board... players and former players yes but not many.
Posted by BWA2015
Member since Apr 2015
451 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 4:59 pm to
What makes you think Dave Aranda thinks so highly of Ed O?

You don't think him staying at LSU has to do with those ten million things we like to call USD?

I'll even do you one better. How about the title of "Assc. HC"

Seems to me that money and Dave Aranda's faith in Ed O's lack of job security (in turn giving himself a great opportunity to be HC of LSU) are keeping Aranda here.

Not his praise of Ed O.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 5:02 pm
Posted by theSaltwaterGuide
Calcasieu parish
Member since Jan 2018
594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:04 pm to
Kirby’s not so smart for hiring Cheney article


Chaney has not produced championship winning teams and will eventually be an albatross around the neck of Smart and Georgia… Athens beware!

Good thing the coaches didn’t listen to the fans and the reporters. Almost won a natty!
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 5:06 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39982 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:06 pm to
Cool so let's add "another coach made a questionable hire that ended up working out" to the list of air tight arguments in favor of O hiring Ensminger.
Posted by BWA2015
Member since Apr 2015
451 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:08 pm to
Also, I too am from Calcasieu Parish. I don't understand why there are so many O supporters around these parts. Is it his connection to McNeese bc of his sons?

And since you're so ready to claim that you own a business - care to tell us which business? Would like to stay as far away from those terrible business practices you employ.

"No matter how valuable an employee is, if they don't get along with me they will be fired" Sounds like you run a dictatorship style of business. And of all people, business owners should understand how unsuccessful those turn out.
Posted by JonGruden
Spider 2 Y Banana Shake?
Member since Jan 2018
53 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:08 pm to
Dude this is pointless the main thing i was saying is why everyone was disagreeing with you
Posted by BWA2015
Member since Apr 2015
451 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:09 pm to
The difference between LSU and UGA hires is their AD actually has a brain.


No comparison here.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6599 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:11 pm to
Exactly sorry arse Ensminger called the ND game
Posted by 1723lale
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2222 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:11 pm to
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Now that O has gotten his way, if it doesn't work, he gone! So, why is everyone PO'd again? Sit back and watch the show, hopefully it will be an enjoyable season. We have 2 stud QB's and I believe we will see both of them play.


Good Post.

the Ranters just want to stew... they can't put it behind them, or at least away on a shelf until something goes South.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 5:14 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14437 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:11 pm to
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t’s pretty obvious. If successful coaches are siding with this guy then by all means that’s a sign. If the rant thinks so highly of Dave Aranda and Dave Aranda thinks highly of Ed O then..... Pete Carrol speaks highly of Ed O. Lane Kiffin speaks highly of Ed O. Hell les Miles spoke highly of Ed O. What I’m saying is most speak highly of him. Except a few that post on here.

The CFB world pretty much turned on the LSU fan base for wanting Les removed but I think most agreed that the "river boat gambler" had lost his nerve and we had reached a plateau. It happened to Landry and Bowden and they were far more accomplished than Les.

I can dissect the good and bad of each hire and/or decision, but I do believe that ultimately O and Alleva have instilled an insider culture that is counter to sustained success. I see how they can manufacture some positive short term outcomes but I just don't see a blueprint for success making decisions that are safe and comfortable.
Posted by theSaltwaterGuide
Calcasieu parish
Member since Jan 2018
594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:12 pm to
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connection to McNees


No not at all.

And truthfully I’m a fishing guide on Big Lake. So my employees are me, myself and I. The way you speak of the matter sounds of that of an employee. Because I promise you as a business owner that if one of my employees was going out there and tarnishing my brand we would have a problem. Hell I get mad at my wife for having road rage when she drives around with our businesses info on the back of her vehicle.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:13 pm to
frick Ed orgeron. Lying fricking hack.
Posted by BWA2015
Member since Apr 2015
451 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:15 pm to
So you actually have no experience managing employees. Makes sense. That is how you can make these absurd statements.

You do know that "not getting along with a boss" and "tarnishing a brand" are two completely different issues right?

Canada in no way tarnished O's "brand". So you should choose your initial statements a tad wiser.

Remember when Jerry Jones was feuding with Jimmy Johnson and let him go bc of that? Care to remind me where that got the good ole dictator Mr Jones?

We can also produce another example of feelings getting in the way of successful situations.

Shaq/Kobe
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 5:22 pm
Posted by theSaltwaterGuide
Calcasieu parish
Member since Jan 2018
594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:17 pm to
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Dude this is pointless the main thing i was saying is why everyone was disagreeing with you


It’s not pointless. People are not disagreeing with me. They disagree with the employment of Ed O and his promotion on E to OC. I’m just trying to show everyone that we as fans have NO idea what we are talking about. By posting that I’m showing you that it’s not just here. Fans have control issues and they want to have a say so or ok every decision. Unfortunately it doesn’t work that way so just come to terms with that and it makes accepting everything much easier.
Posted by JonGruden
Spider 2 Y Banana Shake?
Member since Jan 2018
53 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:20 pm to
People disagreed with almost everything you have said on this post, and I never said I had a choice , I actually agreed with you when I said they are all his choices
Posted by theSaltwaterGuide
Calcasieu parish
Member since Jan 2018
594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:23 pm to
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People disagreed with almost everything you have said on this post, and I never said I had a choice , I actually agreed with you when I said they are all his choices


Most people actually agree with how I think. It’s just the vocal minority or group-thinkers that disagree. It’s all good though. I love the passion. That why I joined TD because I love the passion of our fan base and it’s fun to go back and forth. I’ve got nothing else to do during the winter while I don’t fish,
Posted by BWA2015
Member since Apr 2015
451 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:25 pm to
While I do love your underlying premise on "group-think".

Those group thinkers are not always wrong. And in this case, they are not wrong one bit.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14437 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:28 pm to
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Exactly sorry arse Ensminger called the ND game

Where did you hear this? Link? Proof? Conjecture?

I can supply multiple articles saying Canada was calling the plays.
Posted by theSaltwaterGuide
Calcasieu parish
Member since Jan 2018
594 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:28 pm to
The main part that upsets me most is I hope LSU comes out and throws it all over the yard and Runs up the score board. I would hope that is what every fan would want but I don’t think it is. I feel some fans want LSU to not be successful so that the coach and LSU will get fired. That’s the problem I have with most. Bitch and complain all you want but you better have your as in a seat cheering late into the 4th quarter. People continue to bitch but aren’t holding up to what being a fan is.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:30 pm to
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They disagree with the employment of Ed O and his promotion on E to OC. I’m just trying to show everyone that we as fans have NO idea what we are talking about. By posting that I’m showing you that it’s not just here. Fans have control issues and they want to have a say so or ok every decision


Speak for yourself.

You have this idea in your head that only people that are athletic directors can determine who's a good coach and who isn't. and only coaches can determine who is a good coach and who isn't.

It doesn't take someone in government to know when a politician is corrupt or incompetent, it doesn't take a chef to determine if a dish is flat out horrible, and it doesn't take someone in coaching to see when they're making poor choices or decisions. If you can't see it then that's fine for you but you can't speak for others.
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