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re: Tale of the two Jalens

Posted on 4/4/13 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 3:26 pm to
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Collins had some nice plays vs SC and aTm in particular.



Yeah that's actually what I remember most about his season.

I agree they both played well for freshmen, I was just saying clearly they weren't at the level we've come to expect from LSU DBs, which is pretty much best in the country.

That's not to say they can't get to that level, I just never understood those people that say Mills' play was clearly better than Collins.

Wasn't Mills the one who blew the assignment on the Yates TD? Not that there weren't breakdowns all over that drive.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 5:02 pm to
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especially if the young DEs don't step up and they're forced to cover for too long.


nailed it....against like comp you have maybe 3-3.5 seconds of quality coverage. we have to do a much better job of getting to the qb with inside-outside pressure, stunts and blitz packages. Cheif and Brick have their work cut out for them.

get better.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 5:20 pm to
Tre White could put one of the Jalens on the bench. Might have Morris Claiborne type talent.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 5:24 pm to
I just don't think Tre White will come in and become a full time starter over 1 of the Jalens. He will be our NB and receive a bunch of PT, just like a starter. But I don't see him coming in and taking 1 of the Jalens spot. Both were first year players last year and as expected for a first year had ups and downs. But I think most of that was due to mental errors that will be corrected. And they had more ups than downs. The 2 Jalens and White as our 3 CBs will be damn strong.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81651 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 5:42 pm to
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I just never understood those people that say Mills' play was clearly better than Collins.

Wasn't Mills the one who blew the assignment on the Yates TD? Not that there weren't breakdowns all over that drive.




Mills was definitely better the first half of the year or so. He got burned on an deep pass (incompletion) against South Carolina and seemed shell shocked after that, giving 20 yards of cushion.

He'll be a stud this year.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 5:43 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27345 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:27 pm to
What I remember was Simon and Reid getting burnt more than everyone else combined!
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
Lawrenceville, GA
Member since Jan 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 6:27 pm to
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What I remember was Simon and Reid getting burnt more than everyone else combined!



This
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 7:41 pm to
I think they were average at best last year and now the whole SEC knows and we have a brand new defensive line
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32953 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 7:44 pm to
Mills has the #1 cb spot on lock. He was our best db last year
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 8:12 pm to
Thanks coach
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:44 am to
They both showed promise last season to be better CB's, sure they were up and down, but it's the SEC and they were new kids on the block. I expect them to come out hungry this season knowing what LSU's rep is for sending DB's to the NFL.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:05 am to
U can't blame any one in the CB position any more than the entire defense. After the Bama game the whole defense kinda gave up the rest of the season & the offense didn't help. Terrible in the red zone!
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
57100 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:22 am to



Posted by oldpro
Member since Oct 2011
177 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:13 am to
Both too slow to ever be great LSU cb's.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56231 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:19 am to
Oh my God, so much fail in this thread! What is it about cornerback that brings out the lunatics. Here are some facts to keep handy the next time you (not aimed at everyone, nor at the op, just the moronic and verbose 70%)

1) Both Mills and Collins are slam dunk NFL corners. By this I mean that they will easily make NFL rosters and have multi-year NFL careers.

2) White's only chance of beating out these guys next year is if he is the next Deion Sanders. Same with RR although I'll add that he needs to add weight, also.

3) To whomever said the Jalens aren't up to LSU's recent standards, you're wrong.

4) To whomever said Collins was the nickel back last year...he wasn't.
Posted by Tmacelroy12
Houston
Member since Aug 2012
5489 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:22 am to
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Both too slow to ever be great LSU cb's.

nice troll attempt
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
Lawrenceville, GA
Member since Jan 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:38 am to
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Oh my God, so much fail in this thread! What is it about cornerback that brings out the lunatics. Here are some facts to keep handy the next time you (not aimed at everyone, nor at the op, just the moronic and verbose 70%)

1) Both Mills and Collins are slam dunk NFL corners. By this I mean that they will easily make NFL rosters and have multi-year NFL careers.

2) White's only chance of beating out these guys next year is if he is the next Deion Sanders. Same with RR although I'll add that he needs to add weight, also.

3) To whomever said the Jalens aren't up to LSU's recent standards, you're wrong.

4) To whomever said Collins was the nickel back last year...he wasn't.



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