re: Stud Vs. Grimes..coaching differences

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The running game is a lot easier to block when you have a rocket arm like Mettenberger back in the pocket keeping them from stacking the box.

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Miles only cares about QB's with "Rocket Feet." His beloved I-Form requires a Mettenberger type QB, (R & R) so he goes out and recruits DT Spread guys. Then he runs off the I guys and leaves the team with no depth or alternatives at QB.........

While for all the shite Stud would get he was not a bad OLine coach. But it is also what other people have said, man blocking is simple, here is said player, your main job is to simply beat him as badly as you can.

Zone blocking is a lot more complicated. You have an area to "protect".

I think you are seeing a combination of both scheme and just poor play. And yes there is a difference as mentioned in the types of guys you recruit for a zone blocking scheme as opposed to man blocking.

99% of up-tempo offense are zone blocking. Because you as an offensive line do not have the luxury of getting the call from the sideline of who to block based of the certain call. Each different formation may have a different blocking scheme.

Those big cards you see some teams hold up, are not just simply formations but also zone blocking assignments sometimes. It is true with the Grimes hire Les and CC may be trying in the near future to go more hurry-up and a little spread. But a common misconception is that spread offense, takes away physicality or heavy run action, i.e. Auburn.

I would love to see more hurry up early in the game, when LSU had the 3 backs with Harris in the shotgun, there are so many different things you can do out of that, where you still have old Les run it down your throat, but new age, up tempo.

I think just what a lot of fans including myself would like to see is consistency offensively. We lack an identity, I am fine with handing it off out of the eye and running it constantly down somebody's throats, look at Arkansas or our teams in the past.

More formations does not mean it is harder for a defense to defend. Arky ran the same exact formation with little wrinkles, like a FB may not be in a single I or a TE may have been split out, but it was 30 straight runs out of the same formation.

I will never give up on an LSU team in terms of stop watching or fail to see some positives, but I think these young guys are getting valuable experience and have excellent coaches teaching them, the inexperience and youth is just so evident in the little things that we do. What worked in high school, or the old habits you learn, do not work against athletes of the same caliber.

We've always run zone. And it's not just one scheme we run.

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Not a bad thought. I've been GROSSLY disappointed in our line play, but I'm willing to give Grimes a pass this year. I'd imagine the players have developed either bad habits or just haven't really been taught proper technique at all under Stud the last few years. But who really knows?

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I'll give him a pass this year too. Maybe with a year under his belt and more of "his" recurits, we can see some progression on the OL.

Look, trying to fool a defense is one thing. However, if you have the right blocking scheme and execution, you don't have to fool anyone.

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Miles only cares about QB's with "Rocket Feet." His beloved I-Form requires a Mettenberger type QB, (R & R) so he goes out and recruits DT Spread guys. Then he runs off the I guys and leaves the team with no depth or alternatives at QB.........

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Do you want Rivers back? Do you want Garrett back (he looks like the Doughboy now)? Did you even know that Rettig was a spread QB who was never under center in high school? Did you know the main reason why Jennings beat him out, was because he couldn't even perform a correct drop back from under center?

Zach Lee was offered 5 mill to go play baseball, Kiel was afraid to leave far from home.

You idiots amaze me every time you bring this nonsense up.

When did everyone start putting "serious question" in the subject line? That trend needs to end.

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This is my biggest complaint. Why did miles recruit players for the spread, if he's not going to run it...

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IMO, they are transitioning. I remember in one of the earlier games, the announcers said that when he spoke to Cam, Cam told him that he wants to get to the point where he is running 75-80 plays a game.

Like I've said several times, I'll chalk this up to a transitioning year, but it's just so frustrating to watch when the young talent is not just let loose.

Four returning starters and Pocic and Washington played a lot. As a group they were good last year, hence the the praise for the OL this summer. All the TEs return and apparently they forgot how to block as well.

Not saying it is all Grimes or that other factors are not significant.

Something is very different as LSUs blockers are not close to as good as they were last year and basically they are the same group of players.

Another great recruiter who cant coach.

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When did everyone start putting "serious question" in the subject line? That trend needs to end.

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fixed for you kind sir