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STOP defending BK and blaming Orgeron

Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:21 am
Posted by Z28
Member since Feb 2011
116 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:21 am
Stop defending BK based upon how he had to totally rebuild the program after inheriting only 39 scholarship players, he won 10 games and the SEC west with that foundation. 2 years later his team is going backwards, not forwards. Look at Colorado this season, Sanders started with only 10 scholarship players for the 2023 season, and yes he lost, for 2024 he purged the roster again and signed 69 new players, the Buffalos are now 7-2. Kelly uses the "we're doing it the right way" line as an excuse for the programs lack of progress, after Colorado's 2 roster purges, they now have a top 10 recruiting class, the roster will stabilize, so after doing what was initially necessary, Sanders looks to be "doing it the right way" going into his 3rd season in 2025. We are talking about LSU, winner of 3 natty's in the past 21 years, LSU simply doesn't have to work as hard or be as creative as Colorado to rebuild a program. STOP making and accepting excuses!
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80070 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:23 am to
You are comparing someone playing a dogshit schedule to an sec schedule, and using a comparison of a team with an elite qb and maybe 2 top 10 picks in the draft. Colorado has nothing stable after this year
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:23 am to
And all leads back to nick Saban breaking this program and putting us in the position we are in. One sec title since 2012
Posted by Z28
Member since Feb 2011
116 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:28 am to
You are helping me make my point, in year 3, LSU doesn't have top draft pick talent, and Colorado has a top 10 recruiting class so they are building a winning foundation going forward.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284792 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:30 am to
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Stop defending BK based upon how he had to totally rebuild the program after inheriting only 39 scholarship players,


100% a very legitimate excuse that is still showing its head


quote:

he won 10 games and the SEC west with that foundation.


Will try and keep this as simple as possible

transfer portal= 1-2 year bandaid.

high school recruiting= program building



Can people really not conceptualize doing well enough in the portal in the first year to win games, having some of these guys move on the next year, and still ending up with pieces of the original 38 players, and having to do it all over?

Winning the SEC West was never an indication of ascension. It was one year in a vaccuum. Next year, reset.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3704 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:31 am to
Stop telling us what to do and learn the game of football.

I laugh at you references Colorado who is currently in a weakened division that BYU is leading. Colorado left knowing Texas and Oklahoma were leaving making it an easier path to playoffs. Not one team in that current division could win the SEC or make the playoffs with an SEC schedule.
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
1902 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:44 am to
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Colorado has a top 10 recruiting class so they are building a winning foundation going forward.


Um…LSU has a top 5 recruiting class.
Posted by Z28
Member since Feb 2011
116 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:45 am to
"Stop telling us what to do and learn the game of football.

I laugh at you references Colorado who is currently in a weakened division that BYU is leading. Colorado left knowing Texas and Oklahoma were leaving making it an easier path to playoffs. Not one team in that current division could win the SEC or make the playoffs with an SEC schedule",

It's all relative, LSU in BK season 3 should have top draft pick quality players somewhere on the roster, but they don't.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
4154 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:49 am to
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You are comparing someone playing a dogshit schedule to an sec schedule,


Just stop with this incredibly stupid argument.

Colorado is playing “their” peers just as we are playing “ours”

Louisiana has 25 times more D1 football players than Colorado.


Colorado has had a dog shite program for 30 freaking years, yet Ssnders is making that dogshit program relevant. That’s the point.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5695 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:55 am to
The media is making Colorado relevant. Switch schedules with them and it’s a very drastic difference. LSU would be comfortably undefeated and Colorado might have two wins.
Posted by TigerLife63
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
261 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:10 am to
Your comments are spot on.
Posted by Tiger Chemist
Member since Nov 2009
3055 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:21 am to
Here, here. Hate this excuse at this point. People forget with that 2022 left over roster and no QB we still played better in the bowl game against K-State, then we played last night at home coming off an open week. The digression the last six quarters is real.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
4154 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:26 am to
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The media is making Colorado relevant. Switch schedules with them and it’s a very drastic difference. LSU would be comfortably undefeated and Colorado might have two wins.


Again…… Colorado is Mountain state, devoid of talent, playing programs that are “THEIR” peers.

LSU is a Southeastern state, full of talent, playing other SE teams, which are “Our” peers.

Colorado, who has been total digshit, is now moving forward as a program against “their peers”. LSU is going backward against “our” peers.
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by RTR696969
Member since Nov 2024
2 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:28 am to
Nick Saban built your program he didn’t break it. What a moronic statement.
Posted by Z28
Member since Feb 2011
116 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:29 am to
National media recognizes the problem, SI this morning:

"For a coach who is always striving to be mentioned more with peers like Kirby Smart and Nick Saban than lumped together with the James Franklins of the world, Kelly, it increasingly looks like, was never up to the task with this program that has churned over coaches yet equally produced ones who win national titles.
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
2869 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:33 am to
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Again…… Colorado is Mountain state, devoid of talent, playing programs that are “THEIR” peers. LSU is a Southeastern state, full of talent, playing other SE teams, which are “Our” peers.
LSU has always had top tier talent at DB, WR and RB not so much now. Those positions are the worst I have ever witnessed at LSU. Thats on the coach. Top WR and CB are transfers from ULL and southeastern. No reason LSU should be digging in the bargain bin for CBs and WRs.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
23852 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:37 am to
Blaming Orgeron (who i fricking hate btw) is the last thing that positigers have.

It is their final excuse. So they will hammer it over and over again.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27929 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:38 am to
How about stop defending the players. You could tell they’re well coached but they just crapped themselves. And it was a rebuild complete rebuild. Unless you’re ponying up money this year for recruits, they haven’t been able to get the ones that they really wanted in the portal like Those from Texas A&M last year. I know you’re not putting money up so shut up.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27929 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:40 am to
UGA fans, Ole Miss fans, Bama fans Are all saying the same thing.

NIL
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4280 posts
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:44 am to
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You are comparing someone playing a dogshit schedule to an sec schedule, and using a comparison of a team with an elite qb and maybe 2 top 10 picks in the draft. Colorado has nothing stable after this year


You play who scheduled to play... and you build your team to beat who you are scheduled to play... stop with the damn excuses
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 9:46 am
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