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Staying with Fontenot

Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:30 am
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:30 am
I’m just like many of you...I get very frustrated with PM. One of the criticisms heard most often is he stays with pitchers too long. Last night many said he stayed with Fontenot too long.
I think he stays with them because he doesn’t trust his staff and rightfully so. Now, I know the answer is to fix the problems with the staff but last night, A tired Fontenot who is battling was his best choice.
Posted by FWBTigah
Member since Oct 2017
934 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:31 am to
Fontenot was dealing...even up until The game winning hit...
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18938 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:31 am to
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. Last night many said he stayed with Fontenot too long.


He did stay with Fontenot too long
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
2574 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:31 am to
No problem with Fontenot in that situation.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:32 am to
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Last night many said he stayed with Fontenot too long.


Who is saying this?

The problem was the offense and has been the offense all year.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
1234 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:33 am to
Fontenot wasn't the issue, he was dealing and he was the logical choice to finish the inniny
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:34 am to
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He did stay with Fontenot too long


Would you really say that if he would of SO him? I thought after about every inning that it was his last...but he came out and kept throwing gas and was consistently 90-93...Everybody can couch when they know the outcome...
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:34 am to
Just not sure who else you turn to, we had used up a lot a pitching the night before. Peterson was done. Hess threw almost 30 pitches and looked bad the night before. I guess the argument is Hess, but Fontenot was cruising pretty well. He even had the guy in a 1-2 and 2-2 count before the game winning hit.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18938 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:35 am to
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Would you really say that if he would of SO him? I thought after about every inning that it was his last...but he came out and kept throwing gas and was consistently 90-93...Everybody can couch when they know the outcome...



No I'm saying that because he pitched 19 pitches on Saturday and THEN surpassed his season high in pitches on Sunday by 40 pitches. (101 in total)

Edit: I wanted him out in the 11th inning. Not because I'm a couch coach but I'm concerned about his arm moving forward had we won.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 7:37 am
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6277 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:35 am to
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One of the criticisms heard most often is he stays with pitchers too long


Except on Saturday when he was changing pitchers for no reason.
Posted by Geauxlden Eagle
125 miles W. of God's Country
Member since Feb 2013
2020 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:36 am to
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Fontenot was gasssed


FIFY
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:38 am to
Fontenot was the best ive ever seen him. Kid gave it his all and although he gets the L he should've gotten the w. I can't fault PM for keeping him in the way he was pitching.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:39 am to
Fontenot was throwing 92-93. If our top hitters don’t pop up and take strikes we could have won maybe. Timely hitting was not there.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:39 am to
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Fontenot was gasssed


BS - you don't pitch to that guy, with an open base, in the bottom of the 12th. Absolutely mind boggling. My 10 year old knew that...
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56380 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:46 am to
quote:

I’m just like many of you...I get very frustrated with PM. One of the criticisms heard most often is he stays with pitchers too long. Last night many said he stayed with Fontenot too long.
I think he stays with them because he doesn’t trust his staff and rightfully so. Now, I know the answer is to fix the problems with the staff but last night, A tired Fontenot who is battling was his best choice.



Fontenot was awesome.

Mainieri wanted to go to Hess. Hess told him no. So, Mainieri was forced to make a decision between staying with an exhausted Fontenot (who was still dealing) or going to a guy in the pen who he didn't have confidence in (Veitmeyer or Hilliard.)

One thing that was strange was it really looked like he told Fontenot he was done, and Fontenot talked him into letting him stay. That's a pretty weak move. But, it shows how weak his confidence in the staff was. In the end, Fontenot, at 90+ pitches, was still probably our best available option.

I thought he made a mistake earlier in the game when he pulled Marceaux in a 3 run game with nobody on. We needed to get more out of Marceaux. He wasn't pitching great. But, getting 3-6 more outs out of him could have been a big deal (and in hindsight it probably was).

One thing nobody is talking about is the decision to pitch Henry for 80+ last weekend after him only throwing 38ish pitches the week before. I thought it was too big of a jump at the time. Nobody seemed to want to acknowledge it. But, I think it played a part in him not bouncing back for this weekend.

Also, last night, Hess was at 17 pitches when we lost the lead. A lot of people recognized at the time that we needed to preserve Hess for the rest of the weekend having already burned Peterson. Even the TV announcers said it. But, Mainieri let him up his count to 30 for no good reason.

Last weekend, he pitched Marceaux for another inning in a 13 run game, when you might have needed him later.

I think his inability to manage his staff overall is bigger than his in game decisions.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 7:50 am
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3349 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:47 am to
I had a problem with that situation. If you keep Fontenot in you walk their best hitter. If you are going to challenge the batter bring a fresh arm. Fontenot was dealing however he had moments his fastball was down and moments he spiked it up in velocity.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
2951 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:49 am to
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BS - you don't pitch to that guy, with an open base, in the bottom of the 12th. Absolutely mind boggling. My 10 year old knew that...


Ok but PM said in his news conf that the guy behind him was just as good. The guy he pitched too led FSU in strike-outs
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:50 am to
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No I'm saying that because he pitched 19 pitches on Saturday and THEN surpassed his season high in pitches on Sunday by 40 pitches. (101 in total)

Edit: I wanted him out in the 11th inning. Not because I'm a couch coach but I'm concerned about his arm moving forward had we won.



I agree with you. He'd pitched 2 days in row and was over his highest ever count by 40 pitches. At some point, you have to say, enough. And having him pitch to their best guy was just the icing on the cake. I thought I hated BM before...

Yes, I said BM
Posted by Dupont3
Keithville
Member since Nov 2011
1728 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:52 am to
Fontenot should have been in Saturday.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:53 am to
He also had to coach for a game 3 that whole time.
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