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State of the art pitching lab at Wake Forest - LSU needs this program

Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by Drunken Clams
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:36 am to
I wish LSU would pump more money into things like this. We should be on the cutting edge.
Posted by htcthc321
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:36 am to
"Nice try new guy, but it's niche"

Swear to God I hate those commercials
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:39 am to
Here is my post from the thread I mentioned this in, since this will be more visible and the article may not be accessible to everyone:

To piggy back on some of the things other programs are doing to separate themselves, there is a good article on Baseball America that talks about the pitching lab at Wake Forest that coach Tom Walter (former UNO coach) had installed. It's behind a paywall I think, but I will copy and paste some paragraphs:

LINK to article

quote:

Walter first jumped on board with the explosion of baseball analytics in determining such factors as spin rate. Yet he realized there was more to it than simply deciphering raw pitching data.

Instead of seeking private alumni donations to add personnel, Walter and the university sought a partnership with Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center. In addition to helping raise $300,000 that was pumped into the pitching lab, Wake Forest Baptist agreed to hire a team physician and a director of the pitching lab.

The foremost pitching labs in the country, such as Driveline in Washington and the American Sports Medicine Institute in Alabama, served as models for the Wake Forest lab and worked in a collaborative manner to help them.


These are the people on staff there:
quote:

Dr. Brian Waterman is an associate professor of orthopedic surgery at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center, where he specializes in cartilage restoration and shoulder/elbow care. When he was at Chicago’s Rush Medical Center he also was a team physician with the White Sox.


quote:

Kristen Nicholson might be the key cog in the operation. She did her visitation for her doctorate at the University of Delaware, where she examined upper extremities, specifically scapular and shoulder blade mechanics.


quote:

That information is then presented to Mark Seaver, Wake Forest’s assistant director of sports performance for baseball, who can recommend exercises that both strengthen pitchers’ bodies and prevent injuries. Seaver, who pitched four seasons in the Orioles and Athletics organizations, was twice felled by shoulder surgeries.


One of a few success stories from the article:
quote:

Staff ace Colin Peluse, a junior righthander from Middletown, Del., possessed the highest arm speed with the highest stress on his elbow and the lowest hip-shoulder separation of all the Wake Forest pitchers when the lab began operations. A simple adjustment in his hip mobility has him sporting the lowest stress on his elbow.

“His command is much better and he is able to get to the glove side of the plate better now that his hip mobility is better,” Walter said.

Posted by Drunken Clams
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:40 am to
working with a pitcher to fix their mechanics and load before they even pitch, or get hurt. This seems like a no-brainer to me. LSU could afford the cost.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:54 am to
This is the kind of stuff I've been sayi g about why the lsu program is falling behind and I get down voted by the simps every time.

Developing players has changed dramatically across all levels of the game. If you aren't keeping up you will get left in the dust.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Mark Seaver, Wake Forest’s assistant director of sports performance for baseball


Time to hire him.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

working with a pitcher to fix their mechanics and load before they even pitch, or get hurt. This seems like a no-brainer to me. LSU could afford the cost


Woodward needs to make this happen. No doubt.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

This is the kind of stuff I've been sayi g about why the lsu program is falling behind and I get down voted by the simps every time


The truth hurts sometimes. It all started with the new Box. It was nice and shiny then, but it has since been passed up. The lack of attention to detail, the money saving options, has allowed many many others not just to pass us up, but to be far superior.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:09 pm to
Few posters on here actually realize that LSU isn’t leading the way anymore in facilities, etc.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70335 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

This is the kind of stuff I've been sayi g about why the lsu program is falling behind


I've been looking at the coaching staffs of some random schools around the country to see how ours stacks up from a numbers/positions standpoint.

UCLA has 8 people dedicated to video and data anaylitics.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:29 pm to
That's impressive.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7298 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:20 pm to
I thought LSU used Driveline. My kid has for the last few years at home and his high school now uses it.
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
7854 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:24 pm to
Current Hogs Pitching Coach, Matt Hobbs, helped design this for Wake Forest when he was their pitching coach, before DVH brought him onboard after Wes Johnson. Hobbs is supposed to be helping bring this to the Arkansas program now as well.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15104 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:28 pm to
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the money saving options, has allowed many many others not just to pass us up, but to be far superior.


Dudy Noble has all the player amenities—a new locker room, a players’ lounge, a team meeting room, a batting tunnel outfitted with HitTrax and a pitching lab outfitted with Rapsodo.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Current Hogs Pitching Coach, Matt Hobbs, helped design this for Wake Forest when he was their pitching coach, before DVH brought him onboard after Wes Johnson. Hobbs is supposed to be helping bring this to the Arkansas program now as well.
Will he also be teaching infielders and outfielders how to catch foul-ball pop-ups??
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:29 pm to
What do you mean by "used driveline"?

Driveline is not a product. Its a training facility. Do they send all of their hitters and pitchers to Seattle? Did they hire Kyle boddy and his boys to come to br and assess all of their hitters and pitchers ams create customized development programs for them?
Posted by 81Tiger
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:37 pm to
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"Nice try new guy, but it's niche"


How can the C be silent?

Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65999 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:37 pm to
wait ! there's an epidemic of pitcher injuries?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42631 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:38 pm to
Wow
Hire an assistant whether he played for you in college or not?
What a concept.
That's LSU's biggest problem.
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