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re: Stars DO matter?

Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:36 am to
Posted by LSUgrad08112
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:36 am to
Yep, I’m saying that we should recruit all 3*’s because I refuse to shite on a top 10 recruiting class because it contains 3*’s. Ya got me.

Can someone tell me why having 8-10 3 stars in a 25 man class wasn’t a problem until Orgeron got here? Y’all know that we did that almost every year under Les, right? And now it’s suddenly the end of LSU football when we’re going to finish with multiple 5 stars in this class and a strong majority of 4/5 stars?
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:37 am to
Who said I hate Ed O? Do you understand that someone can be critical and support you at the same time? Grow up you SJW.

At this point, it's a very avg looking class and below LSU recruiting standards over the years in my opinion. I'm not happy or disappointed, just making a critical observation. It will depend on the finish. Once again, I ask you to compare classes. If your avg star rating is 3.5 and below by the end of the year, you're LOSING ground! It's about separating yourself from above avg to elite. Not sure how you don't understand this. That's not shitting on a class it being real.


This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 11:47 am
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:37 am to
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Saban


doesn't have so many three star players in his signing classes because a commitment to Alabama pretty much guarantees a huge jump in your personal rank, usually enough of a jump to get an extra star if not two. Recruits know this too. It happens every recruiting cycle.

Sure, LSU has it happen to their recruits as well, but not nearly on the level that it magically happens for Alabama recruits. It's almost like the recruiting services base their rankings on whether or not N$ extends an offer to the recruit in question, and whether or not said offer is committable.

But I digress... yes, stars in general do matter... but not nearly as much as recruiting players at positions of need that have the physical skills and mental acuity to do exactly what the coaching staff asks of them in their respective play styles and schemes.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:41 am to
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LSU will finish with a top 10 recruiting class. Does this trigger you?



LSU should finish there and will be a great close to recruiting?

How does what I said trigger you snowflake?
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:48 am to
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Grow up you SJW.

I’m a “SJW who needs to grow up” while you’re calling me a SJW because I called you out for being a fricking idiot who knows nothing about recruiting or this recruiting class and has completely unrealistic expectations over what a first year coach’s recruiting class should look like gotcha
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At this point, it's a very avg looking class and below LSU recruiting standards over the years in my opinion. I'm not happy or disappointed, just making a critical observation. It will depend on the finish

No, actually it’s looking like it’s going to finish in the top 10 with 2 or 3 five stars and 2 or 3 highly ranked 4 stars. Kinda like a top 10 class that addresses every major need that we have. Ask Les Miles from 2012-2017 about how useful it is to get top 5 recruiting classes that don’t address any of the team’s needs.

This recruiting class looks pretty damn solid and is a refreshing change of pace from signing every 4 and 5 star that we can get our hands on as early as possible in the process without taking position or need into account a la Les Miles. This is a Les Miles caliber class but wait, our head coach actually recruited top offensive and defensive linemen this year to go with top DB’s, top RB’s, and top WR’s, along with the excellent LB’s and QB’s that he recruited last year. It’s almost like there’s a rhyme or reason to this recruiting class and people aren’t smart enough to take a step back and evaluate that!

Just admit that you don’t keep up with recruiting and move along with your passive aggressive pivoting bullshite.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:50 am to
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LSU should finish there and will be a great close to recruiting

So why did you start this thread exactly? Because we should never ever sign anyone that isn’t a 4 or 5 star? You’ve already pointed out that your standards of a great class are 70% 4 or 5 stars. That’s what we have. And you’re still bitching about our recruits like a moron. Stop posting
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10910 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:51 am to
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I’m saying that anyone who’s unhappy with this class is a fricking idiot
Angry little man/boy calling people FI's on a message board because they expressed an opinion that's different than their own.

I'm saying that anyone who's that unhappy in life, needs to be doing something to improve their situation, instead of spending so much time being an internet bad arse on the Rant.

Way too much juvenile name calling on here due to the anger and frustration that builds up from being a virgin.
Posted by ByUselves
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:57 am to
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:58 am to
That does make you a fricking idiot though. And you should post pictures of yourself, your significant other, and your financial statements since you feel the need to give people life advice over their posts on an anonymous football forum
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5659 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:07 pm to
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So why did you start this thread exactly?



I didn't start this thread dumbass.

I said we would have a great close to recruiting.


So what exactly did I say that triggered you?
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:12 pm to
Calling you a SJW triggered you huh?

Lol, you have no idea if I or anybody else keeps up with recruiting or not. You base that off someone having a different conclusion or observation than you? News flash snowflake, not everyone will value or have the same opinion as you. What exactly is unrealistic about my expectations? Did I say not sign 3 stars only 4/5 stars? Nope. I said if your avg star rating is 3.5 or lower you are losing ground! Once again, compare classes. keep up the good fight!

Haha you're calling people morons, FI, unrealistic from an anonymous acct on a football forum. Talk about a know it all internet tough guy. I got an idea, how about you post your pic, your significant other and your financial statements. Show us how great you really are!!! I want to know what a true winner, smartest guy in the room and recruiting expert really looks like.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:15 pm to
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So, given those clarifications


But every "clarification" ended with a question mark.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14155 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:26 pm to
Of course their are 3 stars that turn out to be superstars , and there are 4 and 5 stars that turn out to be busts.

HOWEVER, you will not win championships basing your chances on filling a team up with 3 Star players. 80% of the battle is recruiting.Saban and Meyer arent magicians. They are working with superior talent at every position and have superior talent backing up each position. That’s what it takes to compete.
So I sure as hell hope that Orgeron starts stocking up on the elite athletes since that was on page one of the binder, because the law of averages says that we aren’t winning shite filling a team up with 3 stars . Ask ARKANSAS!
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:42 pm to
I’m probably the most conservative person in this thread by a pretty wide margin so not really, kinda confirmed that you’re a dipshit who doesn’t know what he’s talking about and runs his diarrhea mouth without thinking though.

And again, I’ll try to spell this out slowly for you. This class is going to finish with 15 4 or 5 stars out of 22 incoming freshmen. You clearly started this thread as a jab at Orgeron and our current recruiting class given the fact that you started it on the Tiger Rant. So why? No one gives a shite about your uneducated opinion regarding this recruiting class aside from the people who flat out want Orgeron to fail and will throw kids who are devoting 4 years of their lives to our school under the bus to make it seem like he is. There’s basically nothing about this recruiting class that warrants its own complaining thread
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5659 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:43 pm to
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HOWEVER, you will not win championships basing your chances on filling a team up with 3 Star players. 80% of the battle is recruiting.Saban and Meyer arent magicians. They are working with superior talent at every position and have superior talent backing up each position. That’s what it takes to compete.
So I sure as hell hope that Orgeron starts stocking up on the elite athletes since that was on page one of the binder, because the law of averages says that we aren’t winning shite filling a team up with 3 stars . Ask ARKANSAS!


Well said!!
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Haha you're calling people morons, FI, unrealistic from an anonymous acct on a football forum. Talk about a know it all internet tough guy. I got an idea, how about you post your pic, your significant other and your financial statements. Show us how great you really are!!! I want to know what a true winner, smartest guy in the room and recruiting expert really looks like

I’m not the one dragging real life into this forum. I’m having a football discussion with someone who happens to be a fricking idiot so I pointed that out. I’m sure all of the Boudreaux’s who are beating their chests and pulling real life into a football discussion where I never mentioned anything about it a single time are the REAL winners here sorry that I’m secure enough in my life to not go straight to talking about the real world with everyone who calls me stupid on the internet
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5659 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:49 pm to
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You clearly started this thread as a jab at Orgeron and our current recruiting class given the fact that you started it on the Tiger Rant.



Hell at first you accused me if starting it then you have the nerve to call someone else a dipshit.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:53 pm to
Well HECK buddy, sorry that I don’t take the time to memorize screen names so I can differentiate between you and all of the other worthless people on this website
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:58 pm to
Lol, I didn't start this thread snowflake. You were so triggered by a different opinion and had to beat your chest about how smart you are and how we're all FI. That you failed to read and comprehend my post. I said, I was neither happy or disappointed in this class, the finish will determine the value, people can be critical and supportive, that avg star rating is a big factor and is where teams separate themselves. But somehow that's unrealistic and I'm the moron/ FI. You must be a complete joy to be around. The guy that's allllwaays right.

I'm the most conservative By a wide margin... lol wtf.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:59 pm to
Boweswi05

He's triggered, forgive him.
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