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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:09 am to
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:09 am to
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est coach in America by RogerTheShrubber
We can't have anyone saying positive things about any HC at LSU.

The third world attitude here is chilling



Another one is it's automatically assumed that being a fan of the coach is a bad thing. So one of the negas worst insults is calling someone an O sycophant.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so stupid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:12 am to
It's a negative PR fight these people are involved with.

We will win this year or not. All of our opinions are worthless. Orgeron isn't viewed as bad nationally as the bottom tier of the fan base believes. 15rh is about right entering the season. He's doing pretty damn well recruiting which is the lifeblood of a program.

Will see how well he does this year with talent and experience
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:22 am to
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He's doing pretty damn well recruiting

At skill positions, sure. I remember that being a knock for the last coach...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:24 am to
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At skill positions, sure. I remember that being a knock for the last coach...


I never knocked the last coach for it
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108836 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 11:26 am to
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We will win this year or not. All of our opinions are worthless. Orgeron isn't viewed as bad nationally as the bottom tier of the fan base believes. 15rh is about right entering the season. He's doing pretty damn well recruiting which is the lifeblood of a program.

Love it, Rog.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:50 pm to
Because 247 ranked LSU at 7. Meaning that Rick’s premise that LSU had a talented roster in 2018 is correct.

I don’t believe he said anything about O being a garbage coach.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:51 pm to
No one is saying that you cannot say nice things.

Who are you and why are you lying?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:01 pm to
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At skill positions, sure. I remember that being a knock for the last coach...



It'd be nice to get a 5* lineman. I thought this guy was a defensive line guru.
Posted by scottiemac
Anytown, LA
Member since Oct 2016
322 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:01 pm to
Saban over Dabo? It might be "close" but Clemson absolutely manhandled bama. Add to that the Clemson players actually look like they enjoy playing for him, I'm not kidding when I say I'd take Swinney over Nick at this point.g
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:10 pm to
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It'd be nice to get a 5* lineman. I thought this guy was a defensive line guru.
Maybe O is confident in his elite D line coaching abilities and he feels like he can make up for the lack of raw talent and focus more on other positions.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:12 pm to
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Maybe O is confident in his elite D line coaching abilities and he feels like he can make up for the lack of raw talent and focus more on other positions.



Maybe, but then after the Bama game he goes out and says we need better linemen. Then proceeds to sign another 3* today.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:24 pm to
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Maybe, but then after the Bama game he goes out and says we need better linemen. Then proceeds to sign another 3* today.



I'll give you a free lesson. No one signs until the two signing dates. Three counting JC.

Also, "stars ratings" at this point are a bit premature and will change quite a bit.


Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Also, "stars ratings" at this point are a bit premature and will change quite a bit.
Always the classic excuse
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:29 pm to
All of our linemen under this coach are underrated by the recruiting services. What are the odds?
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:42 pm to
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Always the classic excuse


It takes a special kind of stupid to think that's an excuse since it works both ways

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:42 pm to
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All of our linemen under this coach are underrated


There's that "special kind" right there
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:44 pm to
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It takes a special kind of stupid to think that's an excuse since it works both ways

Yeah I’m sure you have the same thought process when LSU lands a 5 star
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:49 pm to
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quote:
It takes a special kind of stupid to think that's an excuse since it works both ways
Yeah I’m sure you have the same thought process when LSU lands a 5 star



We had a 5* drop way down the rankings last year

Rankings are what they are, and they change dramatically from now until next March. Both ways

You appear to have a strong bias
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:26 pm to
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It takes a special kind of stupid to think that's an excuse since it works both ways



Oh, so it's possible that Emery isn't an upgrade then?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Oh, so it's possible that Emery isn't an upgrade then?


He said "...at this point..." Emery's rating won't change, but the ratings for prospects in the 2020 class can and will change between now and signing day.
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