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Softball vs FSU "foul" ball
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:47 pm
I've seen a lot of debate on here and I've been arguing with a friend of mine as well.
Player standing in fair territory, reaches for a ball in the air, ball hits glove and lands foul. Regardless of whether the ball was going to land foul or fair, isn't the ball fair because she touched it while in fair territory? What's the actual rule on this?
Player standing in fair territory, reaches for a ball in the air, ball hits glove and lands foul. Regardless of whether the ball was going to land foul or fair, isn't the ball fair because she touched it while in fair territory? What's the actual rule on this?
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:49 pm to DaGeauxt
yes, fair ball
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:53 pm to Honkus
It's where the ball is when touched beyond the first or third base bag. It's all about the ball. Player position is irrelevant
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:54 pm to Honkus
When the player touched the ball it does not matter where her feet or her glove were. The umpire will rule whether the ball is fair/foul by where it WOULD HAVE LANDED HAD IT NOT BEEN TOUCHED.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:56 pm to choupic44
Soo there is still confusion lol
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:58 pm to choupic44
Player was in fair territory, the ball would have landed in fair territory. She attempted to catch the fair ball while in fair territory. The 1st baseman dropped mishandled the ball, knocking it into foul territory.
You cant attempt to catch a fair ball in fair territory then knock it out foul.
I don't even know whats to debate here
You cant attempt to catch a fair ball in fair territory then knock it out foul.
I don't even know whats to debate here
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:59 pm to choupic44
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The umpire will rule whether the ball is fair/foul by where it WOULD HAVE LANDED HAD IT NOT BEEN TOUCHED.
That's incorrect. It's where the ball is when touched, not where it would have landed.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:59 pm to choupic44
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ball is fair/foul by where it WOULD HAVE LANDED HAD IT NOT BEEN TOUCHED.
No. It's whether it's fair or foul WHEN it's touched.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:00 pm to choupic44
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When the player touched the ball it does not matter where her feet or her glove were. The umpire will rule whether the ball is fair/foul by where it WOULD HAVE LANDED HAD IT NOT BEEN TOUCHED.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:01 pm to DArbonneDuke
It was fair when touched. Horrible call.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:01 pm to DaGeauxt
I always thought if you tried to play a ball, regardless of where it was, it was considered a "live" ball. Maybe that's jist in baseball, or maybe I'm just confused.
But isn't there a reason a third baseman will try to wait out a bunt if it is right on the line? In case it goes foul?
But isn't there a reason a third baseman will try to wait out a bunt if it is right on the line? In case it goes foul?
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:03 pm to Tigerbait357
Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up. I could've sworn that I'd seen a play where a player had stretched over the foul line to catch a ball, didn't make the catch, but the ball was ruled fair because it was touched from fair territory.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:04 pm to Cowboyfan89
If you try to make a defensive play on a ball while its fair, then its fair play. If it was already in foul territory, that is completely different.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:04 pm to DaGeauxt
When I umpired little league it was fair if player or fan touched ball while in fair territory regardless or whether ball would have been foul.
I had to issue a warning to the coach whose player was batting and have security escort me from the park because some drunk dad wanted to fight me over it.
I would have whipped his arse, don't get me wrong... Just didn't want police getting involved.
I had to issue a warning to the coach whose player was batting and have security escort me from the park because some drunk dad wanted to fight me over it.
I would have whipped his arse, don't get me wrong... Just didn't want police getting involved.
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:06 pm to choupic44
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When the player touched the ball it does not matter where her feet or her glove were. The umpire will rule whether the ball is fair/foul by where it WOULD HAVE LANDED HAD IT NOT BEEN TOUCHED.
WTF. Why would an ump call foul ball when its still well into the air in fair play at that moment as a defender is trying to catch it. You can't call foul ball at that point. Thats bs
So now its acceptable to call foul ball while its ten feet in the air while still in fair play? If they let it fall and it lands foul thats one thing but she attempted to make a play while it was fair.
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:13 pm to Tigerbait357
Yeah, I don't get why this is so complicated.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:21 pm to choupic44
This can't possibly be more wrong. If the ball was in fair territory when touched, it's fair. If it was foul when touched, then foul ball. Makes no difference where the body of the player is.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:23 pm to LSU1SLU
There's no confusion. Just one dumbass that doesn't know what he's talking about.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:29 pm to DaGeauxt
11.4.8 Shall be judged according to the relative position of the ball and the foul line, including the foul pole, and not with respect to the position of the fielder (on fair or foul ground) at the time the ball is contacted.
I've rewatched it in slow mo and can't tell even from the sun where the...
I've rewatched it in slow mo and can't tell even from the sun where the...
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 10:29 pm to TigernMS12
It astounds me how few people know this stuff when basically everyone has been involved either playing or having their children playing ball. This shite is not rocket science. The rule has always been the same.
The ball is either first touched on the fair or foul side of the line. There is nothing to do with where the player is standing. Geez
The ball is either first touched on the fair or foul side of the line. There is nothing to do with where the player is standing. Geez
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