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re: So why was JJ invited to the combine over JL?

Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67602 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:54 am to
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But Kellen Moore got an invite.


One of the most successful QB's to ever play CFB.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:01 am to
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Lol then they bring up the fight like Mettenburger didn't get kicked off Georgia's team for a incident. Its pathetic

Shhh...
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:06 am to
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I don't know why people keep saying this.


Ok, Coach.

Then, I guess his QB skills/talent got him the invite.

I don't know, which is pretty much what I implied, but I took a guess.

BTW, you don't know for sure either.

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:10 am to
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Elleshoe would you like to make a small friendly bet about the QB's making a camp?


sure. if one makes a TRAINING CAMP (not a mini camp) we pick each others avatars. If neither makes a camp I get your avatar and signature. If both make a training camp you get my avatar and sigs. Replacement of images will commence the day final rosters are set and will go till lets say Thanksgiving
Posted by LSUIEGRAD13
Member since Jan 2011
3939 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:20 am to
Well I more so meant I think one or the other has a shot at making a camp. You said "neither" have a shot. So we can do the same bet, except, I get your avatar and sig if one makes a training camp(doesn't matter if it is JJ OR JL) and you get mine if neither.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:21 am to
sounds good. do you really think either of these guys will make a training camp? I think they may get looks in minicamps and coaches will be like LOL no
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:22 am to
what reason the nfl guys used to invite jj and not jl, then maybe miles used some similar rationale/judgement to determine jj should start over jl. nothing more to it than some people will pick jj over jl. miles is one of them.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:22 am to
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Because people outside of Louisiana aren't racist.

It's just laughable to me when people bring up race as the reason JJ is disliked by some fans.

Lee was booed just as much in 2008 as JJ was for the past 2 seasons and I didn't hear a fricking soul saying that it's because he was white.

It's about what they do on the field and how they represent the school/program.

Posted by LSUIEGRAD13
Member since Jan 2011
3939 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:27 am to
Well I don't know if I actually believe myself but unlike many on TD posters I would like to see BOTH guys succeed. I am not sure they will FINISH camp, but I don't think its hard to believe they will start a training camp. JJ and JL look great when they have no pressure. I think a team will take a chance.
This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 11:28 am
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:29 am to
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JJ and JL look great when they have no pressure


by pressure do you mean when there is no defense on the field
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48361 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:32 am to
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do you really think either of these guys will make a training camp?


I wouldn't be surprised at all if an NFL team took a flier on Jefferson as a project and made a squad for a couple of years. Physically, he's got an NFL skill set. One the major issues at the combine was his release/mechanics. NFL guys feel like they can fix that sort of stuff.

Now, I doubt he ever sees the field.

Lee will probably get invited to a mini-camp, but he's going to have to do special things in a short period of time to make a roster.
Posted by LSUknight2010
Member since Jan 2011
239 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:39 am to
Idk *shrug*but did you see the tweets directed at JJ after the national championship game. I know multiple people who stopped supporting lsu after that day cause of that.
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1591 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:42 am to
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JJ is a better pro prospect than JL


...at any position other than quarterback. Lee had a quicker release and by his senior year was making better decisions/not throwing picks. He looked awful against Bama in the first game. It was really the only game this year that Lee didn't look decent. Not saying that he will make it to training camp, but JJ sure as hell won't as a QB, either. He has one of the slowest releases, deosn't make quick decisions, and doesn't possess the quickness of a mobile pocket passer--sure he's a great straightaway runner (option, etc.), but he doesn't avoid pocket pressure the way he'll need to in the pros.
Posted by LSUIEGRAD13
Member since Jan 2011
3939 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:42 am to
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by pressure do you mean when there is no defense on the field


That is correct. Teams feel like they can develop players. You can't teach JJ's arm strength and size/speed. I pretty much agree with everything Moss said.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:42 am to


I wish this wasn't true.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:44 am to
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sure. if one makes a TRAINING CAMP (not a mini camp) we pick each others avatars. If neither makes a camp I get your avatar and signature. If both make a training camp you get my avatar and sigs. Replacement of images will commence the day final rosters are set and will go till lets say Thanksgiving


Bookmarked.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80385 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:46 am to
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It's just laughable to me when people bring up race as the reason JJ is disliked by some fans.


This.

I was every bit as happy to see Josh Booty leave LSU as I am JJ.

Why?

Because piss-poor QBs w/ shitty me-first attitudes irritate me. That's why.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4014 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:48 am to
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So why was JJ invited to the combine over JL?


Because they needed somebody to shag balls and JJ was available?
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2987 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:53 am to
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I was every bit as happy to see Josh Booty leave LSU as I am JJ.

Why?

Because piss-poor QBs w/ shitty me-first attitudes irritate me. That's why.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:54 am to
Man I would fap for days if JJ was the last pick of the Draft


Mr Irrelevant.....come on down


and I thank both guys for their contributions to LSU but glad ya'll are gone
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