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re: So O asks fans to be “patient with offense. 35% installed”
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:39 am to boxcar willie
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:39 am to boxcar willie
I'm not going to make a call on a coach after his first season, especially a 9-4 first season.
Most are hammering his previous record elsewhere.
Most are hammering his previous record elsewhere.
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:54 am to boxcar willie
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Myself, I'll wait and see how it plays out this season. I'm not going to make a call on a coach after his first season, especially a 9-4 first season.
Then why even have a hiring process? Why not just pick randomly from the population at large, and then wait a few years before judging how good they will be? I mean you don't really KNOW what is going to happen, if that's the argument, that history and skill set don't count....?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:06 am to boxcar willie
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Good coaches should be good motivators as well as have good control and oversight of the entire program. To me it is to early to judge about coach O
We need a pocket passer
We need a dual threat QB
I will allow coordinators to coach and not meddle
There is no rebuild necessary
I'm gonna fire Canada after 1 year to promote Steve
But now we have to be patient with the offense
It was part of the plan not to recruit a CB
Is it really too early? And that's just being head coach for 1 1/2 seasons.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:17 am to Freauxzen
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Then why even have a hiring process? Why not just pick randomly from the population at large, and then wait a few years before judging how good they will be? I mean you don't really KNOW what is going to happen, if that's the argument, that history and skill set don't count....?
Inadvertently, that's exactly the argument being made EVERY TIME someone suggests we "wait and see" after acknowledging that they too did not like the hire of Orgeron OR Ensminger. That's why it's so blindingly stupid for them to follow up that line with, "Well...who would YOU want??" because they've already shown that they do not care AT ALL for a coach's resume and regardless of who it is they must now simply sit back and shut up and "wait and see" how it plays out once Oreron's guys are all out of the program and the new coach has all of his.
It's Crazy Town.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:39 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Inadvertently, that's exactly the argument being made EVERY TIME someone suggests we "wait and see" after acknowledging that they too did not like the hire of Orgeron OR Ensminger. That's why it's so blindingly stupid for them to follow up that line with, "Well...who would YOU want??" because they've already shown that they do not care AT ALL for a coach's resume and regardless of who it is they must now simply sit back and shut up and "wait and see" how it plays out once Oreron's guys are all out of the program and the new coach has all of his.
It's Crazy Town.
Truth.
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GeauxTigerTM
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 11:40 am
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:41 am to boxcar willie
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good coaches do both.
both is the key word. ed orgeron has only ever done 1 of them.
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To me it is to early to judge about coach O,
he is 56.
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I'm not going to make a call on a coach after his first season, especially a 9-4 first season
i dont base my opinion of O's head coaching ability on just this past year.
a year where he was 1-3 against teams that finished ranked. his interim tenure was in no way a good season.
and he has been a head coach before you know
Posted on 4/20/18 at 11:59 am to RedTigerRulz
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Most are hammering his previous record elsewhere.
in my opinion it matters.the o lovers want you to remember everyone else's history but for some reason we arebt supposed to care about the onky time ge was allowed to make long term decisions at a program.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:00 pm to Freauxzen
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hen why even have a hiring process? Why not just pick randomly from the population at large, and then wait a few years before judging how good they will be? I mean you don't really KNOW what is going to happen, if that's the argument, that history and skill set don't count....?
exactly. its as if we should see the hiring of any coach the same. whether they like it or not, proven coaches get the benefit of the doubt while risky hired dont.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 12:13 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Inadvertently, that's exactly the argument being made EVERY TIME someone suggests we "wait and see" after acknowledging that they too did not like the hire of Orgeron OR Ensminger. That's why it's so blindingly stupid for them to follow up that line with, "Well...who would YOU want??" because they've already shown that they do not care AT ALL for a coach's resume and regardless of who it is they must now simply sit back and shut up and "wait and see" how it plays out once Oreron's guys are all out of the program and the new coach has all of his. ?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:27 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Give it a rest...you've been whining for months along with others. I'm no longer an O guy....but it is year 2 of full-time O and I'm at least willing to see whats going to happen.
Give it a rest? Whining for months?
Hunting season was open year round when Miles was the man in charge. You didn't need a tag and there was no limit on many shots you could fire at the man on a daily basis.
But now that o is in charge, everybody needs to bite their tongue and keep their comments to themselves?
I don't think it works that way Red.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:27 pm to Freauxzen
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Why not just pick randomly from the population at large
we didn't just pick randomly. After Herman and Fisher (thank god) fell through and Fleck was considered not ready(I disagree) and consideration given to Fedora and some others, they chose Orgeron. He had a good trail period as interim coach at LSU (and USC) and they liked what they saw and knew a good bit about him. So they hired him. I liked the hire and can see why they went that way. NOw, like a lot of other fans, (other than the anti O's), want to see what he can do. He went 9-4 after a stumbling start last season, his first season, and finished with some momentum (other than the bowl game). Made some good moves in the off season (firing Canada and hiring Ensminger and retaining Aranda. Beefed up the trenches). Now I just want to see how his 2nd season at the helm plays out before getting all negative towards the program. Ya'll might not like it that there are many fans like me, but f all ya'll negative bitches.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:32 pm to BayouBengals18
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You're in the same company as TigerRee and SpaceClownboy. I'd rather be associated with Fat Bastard.
If we're picking sides as far as anything o related is concerned, I'd camp out with Fat Bastard every day of the week over the clown show that's Ree, Clownboy and company.
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:34 pm to earl keese
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unting season was open year round when Miles was the man in charge. You didn't need a tag and there was no limit on many shots you could fire at the man on a daily basis. But now that o is in charge, everybody needs to bite their tongue and keep their comments to themselves? I don't think it works that way Red.
after Miles had been here about 10 years, other than a few retards who hated him from the start (sound familiar). It became obvious that Miles time had run out and that he wasn't going to make changes to stay relevant. I was one of Miles biggest fans (other than his offense philosophy) and even I wanted him to go (after he stubbornly stuck with Cameron and his/miles offense). If MIles could have, would have, changed, he would still be here.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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the only thing that matters is what they "prove" at LSU. If they can do it at LSU, i'm with them, if they can't do it at LSU, I'm not. NO coach is a guarantee. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Fisher fall flat on his face at aTm. Lets see if he does better than 9-4 at 75 million $
even if you are a negatard, consider it a blessing that LSU hired O when they did. That way if he does fail maybe a young up and coming coach will be available (unlike when O was hired when there were no really good choices available) this time around. A young up and coming (like a by then more experienced Fleck) coach that can bring renewed excitement and positivity about the direction of the pr0gram. There was no one that fit that criteria when O was hired. No one the fan base would have been excited about.
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exactly. its as if we should see the hiring of any coach the same. whether they like it or not, proven coaches get the benefit of the doubt while risky hired dont.
the only thing that matters is what they "prove" at LSU. If they can do it at LSU, i'm with them, if they can't do it at LSU, I'm not. NO coach is a guarantee. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Fisher fall flat on his face at aTm. Lets see if he does better than 9-4 at 75 million $
even if you are a negatard, consider it a blessing that LSU hired O when they did. That way if he does fail maybe a young up and coming coach will be available (unlike when O was hired when there were no really good choices available) this time around. A young up and coming (like a by then more experienced Fleck) coach that can bring renewed excitement and positivity about the direction of the pr0gram. There was no one that fit that criteria when O was hired. No one the fan base would have been excited about.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:41 pm to boxcar willie
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Whose saying we are in a rebuild?
Lots of people have said that.
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I don't see people saying they think this coming season (or last season) is a rebuild year.
Are you being serious? If you don't see it, or haven't seen it, you're not paying attention.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:42 pm to boxcar willie
He’s not taking over a team that routinely goes 9-4.
He’s taking over a team that went 8-5 8-5 8-5 And 7-6.
But I still bet he improves that team in year 1.
Did O improve out team?
He’s taking over a team that went 8-5 8-5 8-5 And 7-6.
But I still bet he improves that team in year 1.
Did O improve out team?
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:44 pm to earl keese
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Hunting season was open year round when Miles was the man in charge. You didn't need a tag and there was no limit on many shots you could fire at the man on a daily basis.
Miles provided new fodder virtually every week Earl. Easy target.
What we're getting with O...while I agree with most of it...is the same regurgitated shite day after day.....nothing new.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:49 pm to RedTigerRulz
Can someone take this thread down?
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:52 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Miles provided new fodder virtually every week
Even during the off season?
May, June, July? Some of you guys attacked him constantly, no matter what time of year it was. And now here you guys are, complaining that o is being mistreated during the off season and folks should wait until the season starts before we start judging him.
To me, that's funny as all get out.
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Easy target.
So is o.
Have a good weekend Red.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 1:54 pm to SammyTiger
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He’s taking over a team that went 8-5 8-5 8-5 And 7-6.
making excuses already for the Fisherman. Nicely played.
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