re: so is tomorrow's game....

How many times did Flynn make a game saving decision?

How many times did Flynn tuck the ball and run for a first down on a critical drive?

Flynn also had a knack for throwing balls at the right time, whether it be certain routes, or just throwing it away.

Jefferson has not shown the ability to throw accurate enough with consistency. The difference between knowing when to tuck and run or throw it away, not to mention getting sacked, is huge.

One sack is the end of a possession in most cases. I think it has been the case in all of ours, and we likely lead the nation.

The timing of our routes is not there. Even on completions, the ball is waited on. We had a long corner route to Tolliver, I think, last week that he was wide open on, that had it been thrown a half second earlier, would have been a TD, but Tolliver was out of bounds by the time he tried to turn upfield.

Why does JJ's passing stats mean a fricking thing to begin with? Where does the offense rank? We're looking for production. Scoring points. I'm not worried about fantasy stats. Bottom line is we need a coordinator on the field, because we haven't had one off the field for damn sure. With a lot better coaching, who knows? But, I do know Flynn is now a Packer and has absolutely no bearing on the future of LSU football.

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I think so. But more importantly, to me, is the offensive playcalling tomorrow and what it says about any coaching changes we'll see in the off-season.

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But the last game is a little late to see that.

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If you hold the ball forever and take a lot of stupid sacks, it can inflate your passing stats to show better than they truly are.

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I'd rather the qb take a bad sack than throw a horrible INT

JJ's game management skills are much closer to JR's than they were to Flynn's.

If you see the same level of field presence from JJ that you saw from Flynn, then please just say so. I'd rather spend this time cleaning dirt out from under my toe nails.

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If you see the same level of field presence from JJ that you saw from Flynn, then please just say so

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please define "field presence"

did flynn's "field presence" lead him to throw the ball worse?

did flynn's "field presence" lead him to throw more picks?

did flynn's "field presence" lead him to take just about as many sacks?

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Flynn

26 sacks in 12 games

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28 sacks in 11 games

OMG LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN SACKS LOL!!!!

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KA-BOOM!

That silent sound is the everything's JJ's fault crowd filing out of the stadium

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You bring Flynn up.

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only b/c he was our QB when he won a title and he wasn't really a good QB at LSU

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the biggest difference I see between Flynn and Jefferson is that the offense of 2007 was the most productive offense in the history of LSU football, and the offense of 2009 is last in the SEC, with the same coordiantor.

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but not the same offense

2007 was mostly jimbo's offense with some crowton sprinkled in, with guys developed by jimbo

2009 is almost full crowton, with most guys being developed by crowton

and our OL sucks this year

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Field presence to me is being able to translate the game plan into points.

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our gameplan is still trying to establish the run, and abandoning it when we start doing well (like the 2nd half of ole miss)

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so is tomorrow's game....
Flynn

26 sacks in 12 games

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28 sacks in 11 games

OMG LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN SACKS LOL!!!!

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Touche!

saban looks to be laying his annual egg

I would like to see JJ start showing that he is championship caliber.

I witnessed Flynn do that in the '05 Peach with much less game experience than JJ presently has.

I am not anti-JJ. He is presently our best option. I would like to see him develop better consisitency and touch, along with timing the routes better. When he tucks to run, fricking run. When he's forced to keep on the read, don't turn your back and fall down. When he drops to throw, don't stare and wait for the receiver to gain 10 yards clearance.

I am certain that everyone involved in the coordination and execution of our offense would agree that Jefferson limits our ability to maximize production. They would probably also agree that he is still our best option. This is the conundrum.