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re: So is the official stance of the sunshine pumpers on the QB situation. . . .

Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:41 am to
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14170 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:41 am to
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If Mett goes down, who's the next guy?


This is a legitimate concern. Our anemic offense doesn't allow us to put opponents away until the final minutes, so our backup QBs don't get any meaningful playing time.


Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1312 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:44 am to
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He was the best JUCO QB by every service.

He wasn't overhyped, he is just under-coached


I agree with your first comment, but you can't blame coaches for being inaccurate. Mett simply has not been real good on a lot of throws. The thing that is most concerning is a lot of passes are way off.....not just a hair off.

Mett was pretty accurate in JUCO. Is he confused? Does he get nervous? Hard to put your finger on why he has consistently missed open throws. If Mett comes around and starts completing the open throws, this offense will take off.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20373 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:54 am to
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If Mett goes down, who's the next guy?


This is a legitimate concern. Our anemic offense doesn't allow us to put opponents away until the final minutes, so our backup QBs don't get any meaningful playing time.
It's more than that. I still go back to the North Texas game, and Mett getting crushed. The way we rushed to get him back on the field gave me a big "uh-oh"; as it looked like the coaches had no intention of letting anyone else play. Now, is that because Mett needs all the work he can get, or because the next best guy is clearly much worse?

Getting Mett more experience is needed, sure. But if you can't bear to let Rivers (or Bolden, or Randall) even run a few series against North Texas, toss the ball some, then things are a little scary in the depth chart.

Being afraid of losing Mettenberger mentally if he sits a series, if that's the reason (and I honestly don't know if it is or not), then that's bad too.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:01 pm to
Meanwhile...I just heard LSU ran the SAME max protect / 2 WR pass play 18 TIMES against ATM.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20373 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:06 pm to
Does anyone think that one good game will make it all come together?

There's a lot of pressure to perform out there. Everyone looks rattled and desperate- nobody's relaxed, just letting the game come to them. I wonder if 1 good series, one good half, in rhythm, and the passing game will just click. Just make the catch and accept you will be tackled (Beckham in particular). Trust the WR to be there (Mett), trust the ball to be there (Landry), and just execute. If you fail on a drive, the defense will hold, as it has, and come out relaxed and do it again.

Right now, it seems like everybody's nuts are so tight and clenched, like if we don't get this one play we'll never have a chance again.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:09 pm to
I think some easy completions early could do wonders for Mett and the wrs confidence.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22141 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:13 pm to
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We see everything you do...we just don't act like an eight year-old girl who doesn't get the exact type of Barbie she wanted.



Fellow sunshine pumper here. I'm gonna give Mett a little more than four SEC games before I start making staff changes. (BTW 3 of 4 were on the road)
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20373 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:33 pm to
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I think some easy completions early could do wonders for Mett and the wrs confidence.
Might help the playcalling, too.

People keep screaming to see more diverse plays, but we're having trouble running the basic ones. I think once/if we can do that, we see some serious improvement overall.

Car analogy: LSU's offense could be a Ferrari, for all we know, but Mett (and the rest) can't drive a stick yet. Keep dropping the clutch when trying to move. Got to get into gear before you floor it. That's my hope, and I still have some hope that's actually the case. If so, sooner or later, things will come around, and in a surprisingly good way. IF we can get the rhythm going, we have plenty enough talent to score in the 30's against everyone.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:44 pm to
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Might help the playcalling, too.


True.

I would really like to see some play action fakes with misdirection to the te against the flow of the defense. It is almost always open and an easy completion. Also we rarely ever run it....would catch bama off guard.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:47 pm to
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Obviously we can see what experienced qb play can get you as we went 13-0 until the egg was laid. Guess you guys didnt watch manziel throw 3 ints and have 51% completion percentage. This is big boy defense in the sec. I didnt see brey do shite against bama and they are way more talented at the wr position. What ab murray against usc? Get the picture? 7 games into his career. Hes ok. Maybe he will be great and have a jamarcus like year next year. Flynn stunk in his garbage time minus the peach bowl until his 5th year in the program. Jamarcus didnt come aling until year 3. Hell it took lee 5 years to stop throwing ints.



pretty spot on. Our expectations were over the line, can we start threads on that too?


I liked some of the things I've seen recently. Far from perfect, great or even good but I've seen some positives
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:55 pm to
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Our expectations were over the line


It's pretty amusing to watch some of the same who championed Mett as the should be starting guy last season now call for letting the 2nd guy play more or jump through hoops to find ways to blame everyone but Mett for 7 TDs, 4 ints, 3 fumbles, a passing O ranked at 109, and a passing eff. ranked #85.

What was the LSU passing eff. ranked going into last seasons Bama game with this same staff...#10.

What was it ranked going in the BCG...#18.

I think Mett will be fine with more playing time and I find it pretty understandable as to why we like to run the ball.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32412 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:05 pm to
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Roaad


Take your wife to another movie..



This team just keeps making your negatiger arse look stupid huh?




Check Jamarcus's Stats in the same time as Mett's...
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 2:07 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:17 pm to
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You really need to stay out of football discussions and stick to snake ids.


I know way more about footbal than I do snakes. I can't help it if you're just a terrible poster.

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We run a simple pass route system.
And cannot even do that. You want more? bwahaha..

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JJ, Mett, and JL would thrive in a well orchestrated passing system
It's not that simple, and JJ would not thrive in any system.
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LSU has top 10 talent yet can't get the players to complete forward passes.
Where? Mett? Receivers? Left tackle? Please tell me you have something to say here that makes football sense.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:37 pm to
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I know way more about footbal than I do snakes. I can't help it if you're just a terrible poster.


at least you are amusing even if you offer nothing to a discussion.

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And cannot even do that. You want more?


The players are the reason they can't run routes?

Once again this all started b/c I said scheme and coaching was the problem.

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It's not that simple, and JJ would not thrive in any system.


You don't know jack about football. JJ has the tools. With good coaching he would be a good QB.

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Where? Mett? Receivers? Left tackle? Please tell me you have something to say here that makes football sense.


Go look at our recruiting classes for the last 5 years dumbass. Are you really that stupid? go tell me how high La. Tech, TT, WVU, Baylor etc have been ranked over the last 5 years.

ETA: for once will you please offer something of substance to a conversation that doesn't deal with white perch? You come in and make stupid post and offer nothing.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 2:39 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:40 pm to
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You don't know jack about football. JJ has the tools. With good coaching he would be a good QB
Ironic post is ironic. Posted before edit.

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Go look at our recruiting classes for the last 5 years dumbass. Are you really that stupid? go tell me how high La. Tech, TT, WVU, Baylor etc have been ranked over the last 5 years.


Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:44 pm to
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Ironic post is ironic. Posted before edit.


Why would I edit that? I contended last year it had more to do with offensive scheme than it did who was playing QB....Based on how Mett has performed to date my opinion is being verified.


Still don't know what yours is because obviously you don't have one....or are afraid to be called out for not knowing a fricking thing.

Interesting when a white perch topic comes up you offer all kinds of opinions....yet on this board you never do.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:53 pm to
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I contended last year it had more to do with offensive scheme than it did who was playing QB....Based on how Mett has performed to date my opinion is being verified.
ok?
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Still don't know what yours is because obviously you don't have one....or are afraid to be called out for not knowing a fricking thing.
What do you want to know?
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Interesting when a white perch topic comes up you offer all kinds of opinions....
Holy shite you're dumb. I've fished for those for all of 2 years. I don't know squat about them
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:59 pm to
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What do you want to know?


Don't waste your time. I won't value your position regarding this topic anyway.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:01 pm to
Oh great
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10133 posts
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:10 pm to
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I would really like to see some play action fakes with misdirection to the te against the flow of the defense. It is almost always open and an easy completion. Also we rarely ever run it....would catch bama off guard.

I really think Les believes that play action, misdirection, or anything that attempts to deceive the other team is gimmicky. Early in the game, Texas A&M had receivers wide open. They were creative in finding the path of least resistance.
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