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re: So how would LSU stack up vs minor lg.?
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:56 pm to southeasttiger113
Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:56 pm to southeasttiger113
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You understand that elite prospects basically go straight to high A or higher, a la Aaron Nola, right? Rookie and Low A ball is where guys with, say, a good frame and a 91 MPH fastball out of high school but absolutely no other movement pitches and not much else going for them go to hopefully develop some skill. The farm system isn't anything like getting drafted into the NFL, LSU would pretty easily win against most teams in low A ball solely because of how polished our entire team is.
No.
Go compare LSUs best hitters from previous seasons and how they did their first full year in A ball. They usually hit about .100 points lower.
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 2:58 pm to southeasttiger113
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LSU would pretty easily win against most teams in low A ball solely because of how polished our entire team is.
It isn't necessarily a pure talent issue, it is more about refinement of skills and where players are in their various stages of development.
The guys leaving over the next couple months aren't going to be thrown directly into full season advanced leagues. Some players from the last couple years and where they currently are:
Moore Low A
McMullen Low A
Cotton High A
Katz High A
Rhymes High A
Jones High A
We may be polished/experienced relative to college baseball, but not full season minor leagues.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:11 pm to southeasttiger113
quote:shite just got real.
Well seeing as how I spent 2010 and 2011 in the minor leagues and didn't make it out of low A ball and I still have a solid 300+ friends in the farm system I'd say I'm pretty qualified to talk about it. How many low A ball games have you been to again? Want me to link you about 1000 other players that skipped low A ball that aren't as good as most of our starters? You have absolutely no clue how the farm system works so shut the frick up dumbass, it drives me crazy to see people like you pretend to be the authority on baseball when you have no experience with it
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:13 pm to southeasttiger113
shots fired !
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:14 pm to southeasttiger113
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Want me to link you about 1000 other players that skipped low A ball that aren't as good as most of our starters?
Yes please, that would be helpful.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:16 pm to nicholastiger
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Since half the team will never play in the minors I would give the edge to pro baseball every time
This is absolutely false. Every single one of LSUs starters will see time in the minors, and a majority of the kids on the bench will have a chance to play in the minors.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:21 pm to Snakebucket
Fairly well. Bring on the Yankees
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:22 pm to southeasttiger113
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Well seeing as how I spent 2010 and 2011 in the minor leagues and didn't make it out of low A ball and I still have a solid 300+ friends in the farm system I'd say I'm pretty qualified to talk about it. How many low A ball games have you been to again? Want me to link you about 1000 other players that skipped low A ball that aren't as good as most of our starters? You have absolutely no clue how the farm system works so shut the frick up dumbass, it drives me crazy to see people like you pretend to be the authority on baseball when you have no experience with it
Have no idea of what your point is, and I did slog around in the farm leagues and semi's for a couple of years, although it doesn't take that to realize that the pros will kick the best of college teams asses over the course of a season. Maybe you and I were just fillers, I know I was.
"a solid 300+ friends"
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:35 pm to Snakebucket
Most years we could probably win a series at Wrigley
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:42 pm to Topwater Trout
Many scouts say the SEC, is roughly equivalent to Low A ball. You have to remember that these teams have a lot of guys that are 21, 22 years old. Low A will have mostly 19,20 years old.
One any given game where we can start our best 2 starters and have all our bullpen guys we can compete with a A ball team all day. Hell, our pitching coach was one of the better minor league development pitching guys.
One any given game where we can start our best 2 starters and have all our bullpen guys we can compete with a A ball team all day. Hell, our pitching coach was one of the better minor league development pitching guys.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:45 pm to 777Tiger
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A college all star team would probably compete with a middle of the road AA team.
nope
You do realize a college all star team would be compromised of entirely first round prospects?
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:47 pm to southeasttiger113
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Well seeing as how I spent 2010 and 2011 in the minor leagues and didn't make it out of low A ball and I still have a solid 300+ friends in the farm system I'd say I'm pretty qualified to talk about it. How many low A ball games have you been to again? Want me to link you about 1000 other players that skipped low A ball that aren't as good as most of our starters? You have absolutely no clue how the farm system works so shut the frick up dumbass, it drives me crazy to see people like you pretend to be the authority on baseball when you have no experience with it
fricking boom
Posted on 5/13/15 at 4:40 pm to southeasttiger113
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LSU would pretty easily win against most teams in low A ball solely because of how polished our entire team is.
Not with wooden bats! And if you have to let the pros use college bats, then they would crush our best pitchers daily.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 4:53 pm to gar90
Agreed
Posted on 5/13/15 at 5:00 pm to GeeOH
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Not with wooden bats! And if you have to let the pros use college bats, then they would crush our best pitchers daily.
I thought the wooden bats are actually better now
Posted on 5/13/15 at 5:20 pm to GeeOH
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Not with wooden bats! And if you have to let the pros use college bats, then they would crush our best pitchers daily.
The BBCOR bat is worse than a damn wooden bat and we use minor league balls.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 6:36 pm to barry
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Many scouts say the SEC, is roughly equivalent to Low A ball. You have to remember that these teams have a lot of guys that are 21, 22 years old. Low A will have mostly 19,20 years old.
Low A will have more 19/20's than the upper level leagues, but league averages are still going to be closer to 21/22.
ETA: After a quick search I found a Baseball America article from April 2013 that shows the median age of the Midwest League was 22.2 and the South Atlantic was 22.3. I'm sure more recent data is available and it isn't exactly the average as I mentioned above, but you get the picture. It hasn't changed that much in two years with the emphasis on college players in recent drafts.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 5/13/15 at 6:51 pm to southeasttiger113
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I still have a solid 300+ friends in the farm system
Not sure I've made this many friends over the course of my entire life. I need to be more nice or something.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:14 am to Snakebucket
LSU would struggle against most teams in Low A. In a lot of cases would be beaten handily.
Advanced rookie ball is probably a better comparison but even there would be a struggle.
A starter like Lange would be fine against the A ball guys if he was really sharp, but the bullpen would get absolutely mollywhopped.
Advanced rookie ball is probably a better comparison but even there would be a struggle.
A starter like Lange would be fine against the A ball guys if he was really sharp, but the bullpen would get absolutely mollywhopped.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:18 am to barry
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You do realize a college all star team would be compromised of entirely first round prospects?
would still get worked by a double A team
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