Started By
Message

re: So does Harris Start against ATM?

Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:37 am to
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:37 am to
I'll just say I have a very good view for all of the games, home and away.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21878 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:37 am to
Interesting, so you have the young man's demeanor 100% pegged from the excellent vantage point of hundreds of feet away.

You must be like a modern day Sherlock Holmes, analytical as shite.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39993 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:38 am to
quote:

I don't think Les is happy with his entitled attitude.

Assuming you're not trolling, I wish people would stop slinging this around like it's fact.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87618 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:39 am to
He was decisive with JJ and lee

He didn't trust lee, he trusted JJ
So he played JJ even when JJ stunk and he had to play lee

Lee was just as much to blame as miles was in that whole scenario
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:42 am
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:39 am to
Analytical as Frick...he must be a private investigator...sneaking around the sidelines and such
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:42 am to
JJ played with a lot of confidence, despite the fact that he wasn't that good.

That's one major difference between Jefferson and Jennings. JJ played with confidence (for the most part), and he had a strong arm. Those are two things that Jennings doesn't seem to have.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87618 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:44 am to
Seeing things late and having a weak arm are not the combination you can have and be a success QB

That is why we see such limited routes, gives jennings less to "read" and limits his indecision
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18077 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:45 am to
quote:

I don't need cameras. I am at every single game.


Yet you still know dick, outside of speculation. All of this BS falls on the coaches. If Harris was getting the playing time that the staff has eluded to, we and Brandon would know better where he stands in his development. And if he came in and played as bad as Jennings there would be nothing left to say. The coaches have completely botched this QB situation yet again.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:46 am to
We still don't roll him out nearly enough.

That's like the only time he looks good. When he rolls left and throws that little comeback route (first play of the game), he actually looked like a real quarterback.

We never ran that play again.

Our play calling is beyond awful. How many times are you going to snap it to him in shotgun and ask him to throw from the pocket? You gotta play to your guys' strengths, no matter how incapable they are overall.

Jennings should be rolled out basically every passing play.

ETA: Especially with how lackluster our offensive line play was last night.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 12:48 am
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18077 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:50 am to
quote:

I'll just say I have a very good view for all of the games, home and away.


It's Coach Miles!

Say bruh, could you please start Harris this week since you fricked this season up already?

Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87618 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:52 am to
Miles said they split snaps 50-50 in practice but harris doesn't play

My read on that is harris is unprepared and screws up in practice so cameron knows he can't do it in the game. So he sits. And rots.

They know jennings is limited but they can't count on harris so they make the best out of a bad situation. Unfortunately everyone watches film and the book is out on jennings.

I agree with hanagriff, I am surprised it took this long to fall apart. That goes directly to the OL and the lack of a running game against ARKY. No running game to hide under and jennings was exposed in a terrible way.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11949 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:56 am to
Harris should get the start. We've seen enough of Jennings at QB to know for a fact that he's not getting it done. All you hear is how everyone thinks Harris is the more talented of the two. LET HIM PROVE IT.


But to answer the question, no he won't start. We can only hope he'll get some playing time.
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:00 am to
If he doesn't start I would love to at least see him get a chance to prove himself like you said
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:01 am to
I think you need a quarterback who can basically say "screw the play calling" and just go out there and ad-lib and make plays.

shite, Jennings actually ad-libbed 2 or 3 times in the first half to avoid sacks and scramble, and we still scored zero points.

Like you said, we pretty much know what we're going to get with Jennings at this point. Even if he improves over the next two years (I mean, it's likely he does), that improvement will be minimal, IMO. Everyone has said all along that Harris has the higher upside. We have been playing Jennings because he doesn't make detrimental mistakes and he will keep us in games.

Well, that was fine against Ole Miss and Alabama when we were in those games late. But now, we didn't compete. We didn't score. Like you said, we were exposed.

Harris needs to start against aTm. If he performs well, you have something to build on heading into the extra practices before the bowl game and next season. If you plays poorly, then he's still getting some experience. And from Miles' standpoint, it can also show the fan base that maybe Harris wasn't ready to be the guy after all.

Either way, he needs to see the field.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 1:02 am
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18077 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:09 am to
To be honest the shitty play calling is really to blame here. They never get the QBs in a rhythm and get their confidence built up. With the offense we are running, only a savvy vet could be successful. Run, run, and more run until it's 3rd and long and the defense knows you are passing so they send the house after the QB. Yeah there is the occasional heave-ho on first down the run, run if you don't hit it. With the youth at QB this year the focus should have been on getting the passing game going early each game with easy completions and then run it down their throats.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:14 am to
quote:

To be honest the shitty play calling is really to blame here.

Agree.

Although, your hands are a bit tied as a play caller when Jennings is your quarterback.

However, it is always a coach's job to play and coach to his players' strengths. We haven't done that this year.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87618 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:14 am to
Harris ( and JJ) have strong enough arms to see something late and stil zip a ball in there. Jennings does not so everything is called routes and designated throws. No option routes, no multiple routes, just 3 or 5 steps and throw. Jennings on a seven step is a deep ball or a run

Based on formation and early route keys DBs can easily tell where the called throw is going and defend it. So jennings either forces it anyway with a weak arm or he tucks it and runs.

When he is really rattled he throws flat footed and usually misses high or behind. That is either a pick, an overthrow or he gets the receiver killed. Ask trey quinn and desean smith about that
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:18 am to
All true.

Which is why we need to roll him out more. Less traffic for the receivers to work through near the sidelines, easier for them to get open, less pressure in Jennings' face, shorter throws for him.

He can't play in the pocket, at least not consistently. We need to stop making him do it.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18077 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:21 am to
quote:

Although, your hands are a bit tied as a play caller when Jennings is your quarterback. However, it is always a coach's job to play and coach to his players' strengths. We haven't done that this year.


And what's weird is, I believe they actually attempted to ease Jennings in against Wisconsin, if I recall. But he couldn't hit the screens and dump offs to the RBs. Though, it seems like they just abandoned that whole idea since then
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18077 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:27 am to
quote:

Which is why we need to roll him out more. Less traffic for the receivers to work through near the sidelines, easier for them to get open, less pressure in Jennings' face, shorter throws for him. He can't play in the pocket, at least not consistently. We need to stop making him do it.


The problem with that is eventually he will get killed. Reminds me of when we played Arizona, I believe. And our LB caught their QB on a rollout and damn near knocked the QB out of his cleats. I think it was Darry Beckwith.
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 6Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram