So Alleva get's exposed in November, Miles has best offseason in a while.

What do you mean by Alleva getting exposed?

How was he holding him back? Miles hired Aranda under Alleva's watch and hired Steele the year before under Allevas watch?

Yeah, but Alleva is gonna get all the blame because he's the rant's whipping boy and it gives Les another free pass

Without Alleva you'd still have Chavis and Brick and Cam has a three year extension and a raise.

Fact.

Les was comfy and standing pat. Raises for everyone. If Chavis gets the new contract no O, no Aranda, and more of the same.

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Yeah, but Alleva is gonna get all the blame because he's the rant's whipping boy and it gives Les another free pass

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He gets the blame because it couldn't be more obvious that he was at least the facilitator of hamstringing Miles. Did you not keep up with the Alleva hiring at all? Several different sources reported that Aranda was highly interested before Steele was hired but that LSU presented him with a very weak offer with the Miles Clause. Steele was literally the only decent candidate that would take a shitty deal. A year later and Aranda jumps at 3 years guaranteed. He didn't just have a change of heart. Whether Alleva was acting as an agent of larger forces who wanted Miles on a leash or not is a matter of debate, what's not is that he was the one carrying out those actions.

you're talking out of your arse. Fact.

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Chavis already had Miles on a leash. Les was never going to remove him though he wasn't recruiting or working very hard for three years. How the hell does Aranda become an issue if Chavis is still here. And Brick was going to be here as long as Chavis was. Les was holding himself back because of his fear of change. Change was forced on him and he has reacted to it very well.

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The majority of that is a perfectly legitimate argument but to go down this road you have to admit that Alleva or someone giving him orders hamstringed Miles on Chavis's contract. There is no way around that. The bolded part is complete speculation. Chavis and Brick didn't coach RBs or WRs, and Miles didn't suddenly decide to structure contracts that were more appealing. That hypothetical works both ways, who's to say Les's hires wouldn't have looked like this all along if he were able to offer better contracts? Aranda is a perfect example as I just pointed out. Les wasn't scared straight last year when Aranda was told he was the number one choice. You guys simply can't spin that one. He both refused and accepted LSU in the span of a year, before this "fire" was lit under Les, and the only change was the contract Miles was allowed to offer him

I think you're missing the point that Alleva made Chavis and Les's decision for them that Chavis was leaving. It's widely known that Chavis wanted the Miles clause thrown out and Joe refused, going so far as to not even meet with Chavis about it which he thought showed a huge lack of respect. Whether you jumped on the 3rd and Chavis bandwagon or not as an LSU fan you have to admit that's not the way to treat a guy who has done a pretty damn good job calling your defense for 8 years.

You can argue that Chavis leaving was the catalyst for these good hires and it worked out great for LSU in the end, and I would agree, but that's a different issue from how supportive Alleva was of Miles before Nov. I think it's painfully obvious that Steele type hires would have become the norm if Alleva and whoever was instructing him had not pushed all their chips in and lost. In fact I think making phone calls for potential replacements to Miles was a sobering experience for them, and they realized it was no easy or cheap task to do better than Miles. I will give them credit for quickly getting behind the guy afterwards, I'll be the first to admit I thought having an AD that could get things like this done would take getting rid of Alleva to repair the damage done.

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Go back to school

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I think you're missing the point that Alleva made Chavis and Les's decision for them that Chavis was leaving. It's widely known that Chavis wanted the Miles clause thrown out and Joe refused, going so far as to not even meet with Chavis about it which he thought showed a huge lack of respect. Whether you jumped on the 3rd and Chavis bandwagon or not as an LSU fan you have to admit that's not the way to treat a guy who has done a pretty damn good job calling your defense for 8 years.

You can argue that Chavis leaving was the catalyst for these good hires and it worked out great for LSU in the end, and I would agree, but that's a different issue from how supportive Alleva was of Miles before Nov. I think it's painfully obvious that Steele type hires would have become the norm if Alleva and whoever was instructing him had not pushed all their chips in and lost. In fact I think making phone calls for potential replacements to Miles was a sobering experience for them, and they realized it was no easy or cheap task to do better than Miles. I will give them credit for quickly getting behind the guy afterwards, I'll be the first to admit I thought having an AD that could get things like this done would take getting rid of Alleva to repair the damage done.

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Alleva gave Miles a totally unneeded and unearned extension after his bluff with Arky. Les should be eternally grateful to him. I doubt that the boosters who pay into the system were too anxious to give Alleva carte blanche anymore. I'm for LSU first and foremost and agree totally with the clause since being tied to an HC till 2018 that you can only release with a huge buyout should not be hooked to having to pay a king's ransom to jettison his staff.

Chavis got the treatment he deserved. He coached for 5 full years and one part time as he job hunted. He wasn't blindsided, he blindsided Miles and his own players.

The reason that Les was hamstrung is that he hadn't performed well enough to be given whatever he wanted. What's fair for LSU? Would having Aranda have helped that pathetic offense against Alabama and Arky? Cam is still on board and since the great recruiting class everyone has forgotten that elephant in the room.

Les Miles needs to win something aside from what has become his norm or these February to September victories are not going to be enough. The administration is giving him all the rope he needs to either pull the program to the top of the mountain again or hang himself. I would think they're hoping he pulls it up.

With that kind of support he needs to get better results when it really counts. Being just good enough to hang around probably won't be anymore.