re: SMU is a good win

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You are not actually required to freak out and try to defend McMahon at every waking moment of the basketball season.

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Well in his defense, the Will Wade knob gobblers shite on McMahon every waking moment of the basketball season. If you can’t take the heat Nancy, stay out of the kitchen.

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Never said he shouldn't be criticized when warranted but it's also about the players and if you are at the bottom of the NIL for 3 years that is what you are going to get. He competed with crap last year. Not even an SEC caliber PG. So no he doesn't suck as a coach. Is he better than Wade? At this point no but Wade was getting his players because they were getting paid before NIL was legal. Got no problem with that as the other programs were too. he just got caught. The problem is the Wade sycophants wanted Woodward to be so wrong about letting Wade go that they rooted for Mcmahon to lose so they could be right. That's pretty much it. There were guys that wanted him fired after his first season.LOL. Idiots. he may not end up working out but let's at least see how he does on a more level playing field this year

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This is where you lose people. On the one had saying McMahon is not above criticism. Then on the other hand suggesting the poor results are the fault of everyone and everything else but McMahon.

Also, it noteworthy that NO ONE else in the thread brought up Wade...except you...unsolicited. I think that illustrates the reality that the ardent support for a coach with such a poor record is not really based in a real belief in the coach, but rather a desperate hope for validation that the "new guy" will be better than the old coach who was well liked. Like some strange longing to prove those who think McMahon has done a poor job wrong. Even when then manner in which EVERY coach is ultimately judged, his W/L record, says otherwise. Almost like a doting mother who can't bear to hear anything negative about her child and bristles at any criticism...no matter how logical it may be.

It was inevitable McMahon was going to be compared to Wade. That's human nature. And it's not isolated to LSU basketball, or even LSU in general. Les was compared to Saban every step of the way until he won a championship in 2007. Smoke had to live in Skip's shadow his entire tenure. Kalen DeBoer at Alabama has had two good seasons at Alabama relative to the rest of the country. But for their fanbase he's in Saban's shadow until and unless he wins a championship...if not multiple.

Wade, like Skip and Saban, is unique in that he was one of the few HCs in the last several decades that left the job "against the wishes" of the fanbase. That naturally was going to create basis for comparison. So being angry that it exists is arguing that human nature should be ignored. A guy who follows a successful, well-liked person is going to be judged more harshly. That's life!

A collection of white knights defending McMahon at every moderate achievement isn't effective in changing opinions. It's mostly just annoying which often times creates a visceral opposite reaction. He simply has to consistently win. Unless and until that becomes the norm, he's not going to get the benefit of the doubt from the fanbase. Even after what was a good win the other night over SMU.

10-8 would get LSU into the tournament, so McMahon absolutely comes back

STFU....same type of fans thought Clemson was a HUGE season opener win in football. Turns out they suck bad......and so does LSU

Same with SMU freaking basketball. Give me a break and let the season play out

Big Regualr Season Wins:

LSU defeats eventual national champion and #5 UNLV 1990

LSU beats #2 Georgetown 1989

LSU defeats #2 Arizona 1990

LSU defeats #1 Arizona 2002

LSU beats #5 Tennessee 2019


And now we can add

LSU defeats unranked SMU 2025

“will always root for LSU, regardless of the coach. SMU was a great win. But also, don’t go into hiding if McMahon gets smoked in the SEC again. That being said, I hope he doesn’t. If he does, LSU needs to go in a different direction“

It’s that simple. We’ll see about half way through the conference schedule. We still have some Pretty good players. No elites.

I don’t believe MacKinnon will shoot like that consistently. It would be great if he did because he’d probably make All American. That being said his shooting was a major reason we won that game. So what happens when he comes back down to Earth?

(We are a football and baseball school, thanks)

Apparently by the financials one poster posted we are a football and basketball school. The only ones that made money. Couldn’t believe it when I read it.

And fricking track should be disbanded. Always a disappointment. 7 million a yr. In the hole shite we could get the best QB in the country with that.

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fantasy world that Wade is coming back

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it's more real than you know, I am speaking from a place of good inside knowledge of the situation. Wade wants to come back to LSU. That said, I do not actively root for LSU to lose, never have never will. If MM gets fired ( which is likely) then I would hope we get WW back at all costs.

Who actually really knows how much these kids are making. I think it’s all just word of mouth. I would love to know how much EVERYONE is paying. Would be fascinating.