re: Smoke vs. Maineri

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That, and the program declined on the field during his tenure, that really can't be argued.

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if you look at it on paper, it is no more of a decline then what is going on right now.

Smokes last year was his only real bad year on the field, and it really wasn't that bad. PM is on pace to have the past 2 seasons looking a lot like Smoke's last 2 seasons.

is the program declining under PM?


if he had Smoke's attitude(which i agree with Kim, that did him in), PM's seat would be SMOKIN(no pun intended).


if Smoke was more proactive he could possibly still be coaching at LSU, who knows.

probably not, but 2008 could have been a strong team.


pretty nice 2 year "skid" the team is on right now. Can't really say this is any better than what Smoke dealt with at the end of his tenure. Just that our coach has a National title and is a little more personable. That will go a long way, im sure

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Since skip left baseball, how many coaches have won more than one championship

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Plenty of coaches havent taken preseason top 10 teams out of the top 30 by April 2 seasons in a row



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Our talent level is simply down right now from where it was 2-3 years ago. This past recruiting class is certainly making some good contributions. But other than Mahtook and Nola who on our team that isn't a freshman is likely to go in the top 15 rounds of the draft? Think of some of the players on the 08 and 09 teams. I can think of at least 10 that got drafted that high.

And another thing on recruiting. How can you end up with hardly any left handed hitting or pitching. I don't care what kind of players you are recruiting. That's just simply poor planning.

Maineri = bunt, kid, Lay it down

smoke = swing away, kid. Put it in the wind

chose the one you prefer.

hell i would be happy if they became more aggressive at the plate,quit taking so many pitches.

Until most of you posters that never even attended LSU or a member of TAF uou need to STFU

so you have to attend lsu or be a member of the taf,to have knowledge of lsu baseball,bull shite i have spent a lot of money to lsu and have season tickets before 1991,and i also had season football tickets and basketball tickets also,i have been around lsu sports since i was 5 years old.

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Until most of you posters that never even attended LSU or a member of TAF uou need to STFU

so you have to attend lsu or be a member of the taf,to have knowledge of lsu baseball,bull shite i have spent a lot of money to lsu and have season tickets before 1991,and i also had season football tickets and basketball tickets also,i have been around lsu sports since i was 5 years old.

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smoke laval wasn't as bad as fans remember and CPM isn't as great as fans still give him credit for being ...

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I think this is a very accurate statement, and I think the "face of the program" stuff everyone in this thread is talking about has contributed to both of those perceptions.

Another thing PM has going for him is his accomplishments not only at LSU, but as Notre Dame as well. He has proven himself at multiple stops, so I think most reasonable people know that the guy knows what he's doing for the most part.

All that said, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON a program like LSU should fail to make the field of 64... Ever. And if things keep going the way they are going this year, that will be 2 years in PM's tenure that we've failed to make the tournament. Most, including myself, give a pass for 2007 being his first year, but next season is critical to get this thing turned around or PM is gonna really start feeling the heat from all of us.