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re: Slade Nagel to Houston as OC
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:31 pm to dmart4215
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:31 pm to dmart4215
quote:The actual coachable aspects of our special teams were great. We didn't allow big returns and plugged the gaps on KR return defense and Returned kicks at a higher level than I've seen at LSU since Trindon Holiday was back there.
Good our special teams were garbage
Our punters are just bad punters and our long snapper forgot how to snap the ball. Those are not things that ST coaches focus on. They focus on blocking schemes. The blocking schemes were good.
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:38 pm to BayouCowboy
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TEs - Kelly can help coach, work with Hankton receiving and Brad, blocking. Hire a ST coach with OC experience to help Sloan
There’s no reason not to have dedicated coaches to both. There is no more limit to on field coaches
There is a limit on how many can recruit tho, so pick a technician / experience at one spot and a recruiter at the other. Or 2 dedicated guys at those spots with experience that don’t recruit and another on field coach some where with recruiting assets. At some point it’s too many cooks I think tho
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:00 pm to Geauxtigersgeaux12
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There aren’t any limits anymore to on field staff.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted for stating a fact.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:57 pm to Geauxtigersgeaux12
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There aren’t any limits anymore to on field staff.
That’s not entirely true. Analysts can provide instruction directly to players in games now, but there are still recruiting rules, headset rules, etc. that separate analysts from countable on-field assistants.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:12 pm to wildtigercat93
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There’s no reason not to have dedicated coaches to both. There is no more limit to on field coaches
There is a limit on how many can recruit tho, so pick a technician / experience at one spot and a recruiter at the other. Or 2 dedicated guys at those spots with experience that don’t recruit and another on field coach some where with recruiting assets. At some point it’s too many cooks I think tho
I’ve read the rule about a dozen times, and from what I can tell analysts are not allowed to have headsets on the sidelines. You get:
- 11 headsets for countable coaches (HC + on-field assistants)
- 4 headsets for graduate assistants
- 3 “listen only” headsets for graduate assistants or full-time undergraduate students
- 4 headsets to be used by players or full-time undergraduate students
- 1 headset in the field for “non-coaching activity”
That last one is the question mark to me. Whoever is actually running special teams in-game needs a headset. If teams are able to bend the rules on that last one and somehow say that sending the various ST units out to the field is “non-coaching activity” then it’s fine.
Otherwise, you’re in a weird spot where the guy running special teams in-game needs to be a countable coach to get a headset, which means he also needs to be a recruiter.
I think what most teams are doing is hiring a full time ST analyst (which LSU has as well) to do the game planning and practice instruction part, while having a recruiter (usually a position coach) handle the in-game organizational part on the headset.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:24 pm to Veritas
Too much talent in Houston metro area and Fritz has won his ENTIRE life. In year 3, they'll be smoking..
Slade is a good coach and works 25 hours a day. I had some great buddies coach and they WORK WORk WORK all the time. The compensation outside Head Coaches and top tier Coordinators, is not worth the hours they spend doing their job in my opinion...they had the thousand yard stare ALL year.
I'm too lazy to be a coach
Slade is a good coach and works 25 hours a day. I had some great buddies coach and they WORK WORk WORK all the time. The compensation outside Head Coaches and top tier Coordinators, is not worth the hours they spend doing their job in my opinion...they had the thousand yard stare ALL year.
I'm too lazy to be a coach
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:44 pm to dmart4215
BK has no excuses now for not bringing Greg McMahon back..
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:45 pm to dmart4215
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Good our special teams were garbage
If you wanna criticize this guy for TE blocking I get it but special teams coordinator was just a title
Kelly’s ST have sucked arse for 3 years. Mason Taylor had a good year. Didn’t get enough targets imo but he would succeed without a position coach. At least pimpton flashed (finally) against OU. I’m not gonna blame Nagle for our snapper who was too busy posting tik toks in lockerroom to improve, or for 2 shitty punters that he didn’t recruit here.
Nagle bouncing for a P4 OC job is understandable and I am not happy or disappointed. Doesn’t take much to coach tight ends at LSU under BK. But certainly do not think this solves our ST issues. BK needs to commit to turning that unit around and it starts with replacing 2 shitty punters with a good once, and finding guys who can get on the same page on the FG unit. We just housed a KR & 0 was solid returning punts for most part this year. Fix the need issues and give the damn “ST Coordinator” title to whoever you want
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:08 pm to Soggymoss
Ol Slade Nagel’s a good o’ baw yall. He’s from good people.
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