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re: Skip Bertman does not believe Jeremy Hill will be back

Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:16 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:16 am to
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if Skip takes that kind of conversation and decides to tell the media that Hill is gone in his opinion, then shame on The Skipper.

Which I don't disagree with.

But Skip was asked a question and he has never been known to be a "no comment" type of person.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:19 am to
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Other than upsetting a bunch of message board addicts, what harm did he do by voicing his opinion?


It gives the appearance to most that he is speaking from a position of either authority or inside info. He's not in any position to do either.

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Either it's his opinion, which he is entitled to and has certainly earned, or it's Miles' way of putting it out there, which I doubt.


He can have his opinion...but when asked he should have enough sense to keep it to himself because putting it out there is needless aggravation for LSU.

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My best guess is Skip has had conversations with Miles who has made it clear Hill is gone if his probation is revoked, Skip think's Hill's probation will be revoked based on his conversations with DA Hillar Moore who is a personal friend of the Bertmans, so he has formed an opinion that Hill is gone.


all of that may be 100% true, and all of it is the exact reason I'd like to think Skip would be smart enough to keep it to himself if asked.

Can you imagine how pissed Skip would have been if during some issue with his ball club a former AD at LSU was going around telling the press what he thought was going to happen with one of his players? It's just terrible form if he actually said something...and even worse if he said something he actually knows.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:19 am to
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this is why i didn't want the guy in the first place, get your hopes up and then this again..

If getting a blowjob was an early sign of assaulting people this would be a crazy world

ETA:
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 11:23 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59645 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:21 am to
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Coming from skip I doubt it's just an opinion.


Bertman shouldn't be commenting on it at all.

Speculating on the situation is out of line.

Commenting on the subject with knowledge of what is going to happen is even worse.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74196 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:21 am to
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If getting a blowjob was an early sign of assaulting people this would be a crazy world



From what I remember going to bars in college, lack of getting a blowjob was a much more common precursor to assaulting someone.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74196 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:21 am to
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Bertman shouldn't be commenting on it at all.

Exactly. The amount of mental gymnastics going on to justify Skip's comments should tell you what side logic falls on.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131385 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:24 am to
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It gives the appearance to most that he is speaking from a position of either authority
Anyone who believes Skip has authority in the athletic department is terribly out of date and misinformed, which is probably why his comment upset so many posters on this board.

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because putting it out there is needless aggravation for LSU.
What aggravation for LSU did he cause? This board is NOT LSU.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:24 am to
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If getting a blowjob was an early sign of assaulting people this would be a crazy world


She was 14 years old. One year removed from being in middle school. If tht was your daughter, would you still feel the same as you do now?
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:27 am to
If she were giving out blowjobs I'd be more pissed at her than him

Eta: they were both in high school. A senior hooking up with a freshman really isn't uncommon
This post was edited on 7/26/13 at 11:29 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131385 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:27 am to
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to justify Skip's comments
What justification is needed?

The man was asked a question and he gave his opinion based on the information he has.

People on this board get their panties in a wad over the silliest of things.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59645 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:34 am to
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What justification is needed?

The man was asked a question and he gave his opinion based on the information he has.



He should not have done it. It was way out of line. And, Miles has every reason to be very upset about it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131385 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:39 am to
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A senior hooking up with a freshman really isn't uncommon
An 18 year old adult male (he turned 18 the next day) taking a 14 year old juvenile female into the boys restroom in order to make her give him a BJ is a felony. You can try to justify it anyway you want to but those are the facts.

Hill's charge was reduced to a misdemeanor because of his 'hero' football status. Any other 18 year old would probably already have been incarcerated.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131385 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:40 am to
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He should not have done it. It was way out of line.
And that is your opinion.

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And, Miles has every reason to be very upset about it.

Maybe so. So what?
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19262 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:40 am to
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If Miles wanted Hill gone, he would be gone by now.


Exactly, there's no advantage to wait if he's truly gone.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131385 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:43 am to
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If Miles wanted Hill gone, he would be gone by now.



Exactly, there's no advantage to wait if he's truly gone.

I don't think it's a case of "want" for Miles. It's a case of what will likely happen at Hill's hearing.
Posted by Charter n Coke
Member since Jan 2013
2786 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:45 am to
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It's a case of what will likely happen at Hill's hearing.


Hills probation will not be revoked.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:45 am to
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An 18 year old adult male (he turned 18 the next day) taking a 14 year old juvenile female into the boys restroom in order to make her give him a BJ is a felony. You can try to justify it anyway you want to but those are the facts.

Hill's charge was reduced to a misdemeanor because of his 'hero' football status. Any other 18 year old would probably already have been incarcerated.

It got reduced to a misdemeanor because that's not what happened. The story was exaggerated at first. Not uncommon
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:47 am to
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I don't think it's a case of "want" for Miles. It's a case of what will likely happen at Hill's hearing.

I think that's the point. The only way Bertman would know what would happen is if the legal process didn't influence the decision. And if that was the case, there'd be no need to keep Hill anymore
Posted by Charter n Coke
Member since Jan 2013
2786 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:47 am to
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An 18 year old adult male (he turned 18 the next day) taking a 14 year old juvenile female into the boys restroom in order to make her give him a BJ is a felony. You can try to justify it anyway you want to but those are the facts.



woah woah, when did this happen? Pretty sure it was made known that is was consensual.

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Hill's charge was reduced to a misdemeanor because of his 'hero' football status


You have no idea what you are talking about.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131385 posts
Posted on 7/26/13 at 11:48 am to
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It got reduced to a misdemeanor because that's not what happened.
Riiight.....
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