re: Skeptic or Not, Can we agree on the meeting?

I thought the more relevant defrauding issue is between Dawkins and the kids/parents ... The ones he is supposed to be the trusted advisor of. If he's getting paid by a shoe company or school to tell the kid "this is the best thing for you" then he's violating that role. But, maybe I've missed the point of it.

Don't believe any of it. Also don't get excited at the prospect of boosters weighing in with their influence. The last thing we want is a bunch of boosters running an athletic department. That's what's happened at Auburn recently and to LSU in the 90s. We need a strong AD to keep all united and in line but Joe A is not it.

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Why is it grim?

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Well........it's "grim" enough to get WW suspended. It's "grim" enough for most of the media to say WW has already coached his last game at LSU. It's "grim" enough for LSU to invite the NCAA into a meeting (that WW refused to attend) with their employee, WW.

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What secret evidence do you know of that proves that Wade committed an NCAA violation?

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I don't have any proof. It's not my job to investigate and gather proof. But when you have these transcripts of WW discussing these "shady" topics with equally "shady" confessed felons, It does not look good. In fact, it looks so bad that LSU & the NCAA are NOW INVESTIGATING WW.

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He's not a confessed felon

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Dawkins has accepted a plea deal.....that makes him a convicted felon.

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Bill Self "discussed" shady activity with him as well, as did Sean Miller.

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So.

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LSU has no reason fire WW with cause

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Well.......IF (and it's a big IF) LSU wanted to terminate WW for not attending the meeting, I think they would be on good legal ground. However, I think LSU will wait until the NCAA announces their findings and that will be what LSU uses to get rid of WW. If LSU did not really believe WW is guilty of MAJOR NCAA VIOLATIONS, they would not have suspended him.

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Unless LSU wants to pay him $9MM not to coach, they'll have no to choice but to eventually reinstate him.

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They already have cause......they are just waiting for additional/official findings from the NCAA so it will be a slam dunk.

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Let me guess, you read that he was subpoenaed in the paper,

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Perhaps I'm missing your point. But did you not read that Wade was subpoenaed or under threat of subpoena in the paper? Do you have no idea what that means? From your post, unless I'm missing it, none of that seems readily evident. Regardless, what's worse is whoever calls the shots at LSU appears to be in the identical boat.

In the same vein, LSU's attorney recently made a public pronouncement. He audaciously claimed that an individual under federal subpoena or imminent threat of subpoena should feel free to talk with potentially unknown individuals on speakerphone about upcoming federal testimony. That claim was made at behest of someone at LSU. It is breathtakingly stupid. In the end, we have to assume the attorney was representing FKing's perspective in saying what he did.

Two weeks ago, worrisome news from a marginally credible source suddenly surfaced about WillWade. Wade's response should be something Alleva and FKing would want to hear. Wade's response would be something they would benefit from hearing. Wade's response would be something they should want to hear in advance of outside parties hearing it. Wade's response would enable them to form the basis of a plan of attack moving forward. That plan of attack could include anything from Wade's immediate dismissal and LSU's withdrawal from postseason competition to a full-out defense of the school and aggressive counter-narrative response to press reports.

Instead, FKing screwed the pooch. Rather than quickly meeting with Wade privately, someone decided to invite a veritable audience to the meeting. Someone even decided to include a third party conference call during the brief. Whoever proposed a conference call under those circumstances, much less one with the NCAA (and potentially the FBI) at the other end of the line, needs to be drawn-and-quartered. There was no need for it. There was no good purpose served by it. It scuttled any possibility of LSU gaining information. There is no excuse for that kind of abject stupidity. None!

Ultimately FKing (or possibly James Williams) was responsible for calling that shot. Others may have suggested it. But FKing did it. No way around it. Then he had LSU counsel attempt to justify it to the public.

The goal after the Yahoo! story broke should have been for Alleva and FKing to hear Wade's side of the thing, then to make an INFORMED decision about Wade, the BBTeam, and how to move forward with NCAAcompliance. Incorporation of a conference call with the NCAA assured FKing beyond-a-shadow-of-doubt he'd receive no additional clarifying information or explanation from Wade's camp. It assured FKing he'd not hear Wade's side. It assured FKing he'd be acting solely on basis of information from reporters with a very sketchy history of accuracy, and who were sourcing a shyster lawyer whose motives have nothing to do with accuracy or truth.

Unless the decision was already made to fire Wade, the tack chosen (or accepted) by FKing assured failure. Failure to attain facts. Failure to attain a fuller understanding. Failure to be able to make a well informed decision. Failure to control the PR narrative instead of responding to it. Failure was 100% assured! There could be no other outcome, and if the decision had been made to fire Wade, why suspend him? Even that fails.

There is an old saying, "Failure is not an option." For scenarios FKing involves himself in, it seems he creates no option but failure. The guy is a disaster. LSU has been sullied under his watch.