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re: Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation?

Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:30 am to
Posted by sloggdogg81
Member since Sep 2009
69 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:30 am to
The media advised that BRPD wanted to talk with him in connection with a murder of a pregnant woman. BRPD Advised he was not a suspect and wanted to talk with him due to possibly being the father of the saved baby. The media made it sound worse then it is for Collins not BRPD. Secondly you same Idiots that say BRPD screwed up are the same ones who would say the are giving special treatment for Collins if they didn't do anything.
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I am only saying this if he is only wanted for questioning in someone else's alibi, and has nothing to do with the case.

If he is just wanted for an alibi, the BR police fricked this kid over, costing him millions of dollars as a first round draft pick, like predicted. There was no reason for them to release this info just before the draft.

Sorry if already discussed.


He can't. BRPD did not go out the way to attack his character, as they made clear that he was not a suspect. The whole situation murdered his draft stock, but they have to investigate the murder and talk to many different people. They wanted to learn more about the victim, and possibly and additional clues that might lead to a suspect. An alibi would also totally eliminate Collins from any potential suspect list he might have been on.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5613 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:31 am to
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So the police should worry more about screwing over a kid's draft stock than finding the person who killed an 8-month pregnant woman?




Exactly, this board is hillarious.
Posted by AllDay81
VA
Member since Jan 2012
602 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:33 am to
quote:

theantiquetiger


I assume you're not a lawyer.
Posted by Captain Want
Member since Nov 2009
2173 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:44 am to
Collins' own attorney is the one who called him a suspect and said they were trying to clear his name. Not BRPD. Maybe he should sue his own attorney.
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1656 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:48 am to
So your saying as a citizen who is not a suspect or under arrest as stated by the Baton rouge police department I am required by law to speak with them and if I don't they have a right to pursue me not in the court of law but the court of public opinion. Show me where I should not be protected by confidentiality laws as well as the 4th and 5th amendments. Collins and I as citizens DO have rights. Just because our justice system has ignored them in recent history does not mean they should be null and void.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 8:52 am
Posted by Ragin' Tiger
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2012
972 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:51 am to
There are ways of going about questioning someone without releasing his name. I'm pretty sure the police department does not release the name of every person they want to question.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:57 am to
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I am required by law to speak with them
Nope.

quote:

if I don't they have a right to pursue me not in the court of law but the court of public opinion.
They certainly can make it known they are interested in talking with you.

quote:

Show me where I should not be protected by confidentiality laws as well as the 4th and 5th amendments.
How about you make a specific argument with real law and facts as to how the BRPD, or anyone else has violated the 4th and 5th amendments or these non specific confidentiality laws you referenced.

quote:

Collins and I as citizens DO have rights. Just because our justice system has ignored them in recent history does not mean they should be null and void.
Which right of his has been violated and how?



Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 8:59 am to
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I am required by law to speak with them and if I don't they have a right to pursue me not in the court of law but the court of public opinion. 


You're not required by law to speak with them. They're not required my any law not to release your name. In fact, they do have an actual right to release the names of persons of interest in investigations.

They reached out and tried to do this quietly. Either him or his lawyer said no thanks. We'll maybe just talk to you later. That was either an extremely stupid decision,or him and his lawyer known something we don't.


quote:

Show me where I should not be protected by confidentiality laws as well as the 4th and 5th amendments


What are confidentiality laws?

As for the forth and fifth amendments, show me where those say the police dept cannot ask to question you or put your name out there after you blow them off.

This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 9:01 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:01 am to
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Which right of his has been violated and how? 



Apparently "confidentiality law". Who knew.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84368 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:03 am to
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I think a good lawyer could easily prove this.


BRPD never said he was a suspect. They said they wanted to question him, which is true.

Know what the absolute defense is to defamation, libel, and slander? The truth.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:04 am to
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:14 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:06 am to
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and intent to cause harm...if they released his name because he was uncooperative and put pressure on him using the draft, he's got a slam dunk case if he can prove it

What? Are you trolling?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84368 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:06 am to
Holy moly, batman.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69454 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:07 am to
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all he needs to show are damages...check 

and intent to cause harm...if they released his name because he was uncooperative and put pressure on him using the draft, he's got a slam dunk case if he can prove it 


You know neither of those statements is correct, right?

I am so disappointed in you Fox. You're dead to me.

Go hang out in Saints report from now on.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 9:09 am
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:09 am to
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:13 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:10 am to
quote:

saying something untrue
What do you think they said that was untrue?
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
86837 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:14 am to
quote:

saying something untrue, with intent to harm and causing damages is defamation.



So BRPD doesnt want to speak with him? Because that's really all they have said

What did they say that was untrue?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26627 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:16 am to
If it's his kid, then he is a major suspect in spite of police statements.

If it's not his kid, he should have done a press conference and jumped all over this.

BRPD knows: who the father is, or who the mom claimed was the father. Tigerdroppings doesn't know, but they do. They've talked to her family and friends, we know virtually nothing.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84368 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 9:16 am to
quote:

I'm not, but I don't want to get banned for pointing out that he most likely murdered her.


Oh, ok. A little Friday morning troll.

Carry on then...
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